Add Leggings of Beast Mastery to T6 Vendor plz

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You don't have the slightest idea of what you're talking about.
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I play healers almost all the time and I still think that certain amount of PvE items is required, although going full PvE is indeed retarded. You stated you're playing resto druid now, which requires high amount of resilience as well, you're still defending your point just because you need it. How do you imagine playing in literally full pvp gear? 540 resilience locks? It's way more than resilience cap. I think that T6 quality items would be good addition to PvP items, it's not as overpowered as SWP gear. I don't know why do you always have to mention your Firstaidkit vs Ezatt war, you made donors play with you, but all the new players (those could be donors if they got attracted to SF) roflstomped by your premades didn't really like that. There's a difference between competitive gaming and getting massacred by you and your healers, just because Alliance premade dodged you and you decided to farm graveyard. It's a bit confusing to me that you already started complaining about PvE gear just because someone suggested adding those hunter legs with unique stats, which are maybe average item, not even worth comparing to Starstalker Legguards with 120 attack power and 3 sockets.
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Oke I maybe went a bit off-topic cuz these hunters leggings aren't really that great. But I'm just talking about the SWP problem in general.. For example: Warlocks can still use two parts of t6 for the set bonus. Feral druids also need the t5 set bonus etc. In my opinion it ruins the fun if people wear full PvE sets in BG's (for example: One Spot inspect players from that guild they all wear full SWP set with 0 resilience) especially talking about Boomkins and Elementals as I stated in my previous post since they were never this OP on retail TBC. Random guildless players copy their sets cuz they see them zerg it's annoying as fuck to get 1 shotted by 3 elementals, 3 boomkins and 2 hunters full PvE + draining you in the meanwhile.

My previous guilds didn't only consist out of players with S4 gear Roflstomping the graveyard it varied some people farmed S3 since they didn't had the possibilty to donate and no I didn't donate every player like Ezatt did. Also please explain why the server had higher population back than? Because I don't see any other major change that affected the server like this...

People quit cuz a shit lot SWP got introduced when SC was released after a while it gets boring because there is no content to add to the server anymore. The SWP gear got wiped before, so why not wipe it again it will surely balance some stuff.

If you know how to play you don't need a full SWP set to carry you that's what I'm trying to say. But again this is my PoV on the server at the moment.

Also I don't know why you are trashtalking me Cube? You just say I'm clueless on this without an actual reason to say that, I'm pretty sure I still play more bg's than you do so I know what I'm talking about better than you.
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the main problem is not pve gear itself but haste and armor penetration.

haste gear came out with swp (t6 offparts are swp too) and armor penetration mostly there too.

ofcourse there are still few retarded items (besides SWP gear) like The Skull of Gul'dan (Black Temple) which make the game unbalanced
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Firstaidkit wrote:Oke I maybe went a bit off-topic cuz these hunters leggings aren't really that great. But I'm just talking about the SWP problem in general.. For example: Warlocks can still use two parts of t6 for the set bonus. Feral druids also need the t5 set bonus etc. In my opinion it ruins the fun if people wear full PvE sets in BG's (for example: One Spot inspect players from that guild they all wear full SWP set with 0 resilience) especially talking about Boomkins and Elementals as I stated in my previous post since they were never this OP on retail TBC. Random guildless players copy their sets cuz they see them zerg it's annoying as fuck to get 1 shotted by 3 elementals, 3 boomkins and 2 hunters full PvE + draining you in the meanwhile.

My previous guilds didn't only consist out of players with S4 gear Roflstomping the graveyard it varied some people farmed S3 since they didn't had the possibilty to donate and no I didn't donate every player like Ezatt did. Also please explain why the server had higher population back than? Because I don't see any other major change that affected the server like this...

People quit cuz a shit lot SWP got introduced when SC was released after a while it gets boring because there is no content to add to the server anymore. The SWP gear got wiped before, so why not wipe it again it will surely balance some stuff.

If you know how to play you don't need a full SWP set to carry you that's what I'm trying to say. But again this is my PoV on the server at the moment.

Also I don't know why you are trashtalking me Cube? You just say I'm clueless on this without an actual reason to say that, I'm pretty sure I still play more bg's than you do so I know what I'm talking about better than you.
I'm not trash-talking you, I'm stating that you don't know what you're talking about when it comes to stat allocation and the impact it has on the game. Why? Because of your statements. I could explain it to you, but there's no need, since I already have. Multiple times at that. As Mayore said, pve gear in general isn't a problem.

The only good point you're making is that the current situation probably isn't good for the well-being of the server. Do I know this for a fact? No. But just as you do, I think it's a factor. Removing all pve gear from the various pvp environments would however inflict even more damage, hence why I said it's retarded.
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Re: Add Leggings of Beast Mastery to T6 Vendor plz

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And that's why you should learn to read, I stated before that they should remove SWP gear and not all the PvE gear because else players cannot play PvE anymore.. did you even read my previous post? And I'm mostly referring to the players that go with 0 resilience full PvE sets like almost all the people out of One Spot and other random players.

It's funny how you always pretend I said stuff, while I corrected myself afterwards even... because I thought you guys would understand me but I guess you're too stupid to understand this issue. My English isn't the best we all know that but you get the message no need to insult / trashtalk me for it.
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Why are you still complaining ? Unfortunately, your rantings are totally useless.

Honestly, are SWP gears a real issue ? I don't think so, as these players wearing it are really easy to kill. You can't deny it.
It only becomes annoying when these guys are with healers/pals wearing the same kind of gears.

Thus, the real problem is how PuG/premades are made but can we do anything against this ?

EDIT : Oh and btw, stop saying this bullshit that players left at the end of your childish war (when you became #2 at HKs).
I'm pretty sure that a lot are now playing in retail, playing on AT or even at other games. It's mainly because BC contents can't evolve.
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Apuclevercow wrote:
Honestly, are SWP gears a real issue ? I don't think so, as these players wearing it are really easy to kill. You can't deny it.

aye elemental shaman is so easy to kill with that absorb thing on shield jk
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Mayore wrote:
Apuclevercow wrote:
Honestly, are SWP gears a real issue ? I don't think so, as these players wearing it are really easy to kill. You can't deny it.

aye elemental shaman is so easy to kill with that absorb thing on shield jk
At least easier than against a S4 geared elemental shaman with hast gems and the wards.
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Firstaidkit wrote:And that's why you should learn to read, I stated before that they should remove SWP gear and not all the PvE gear because else players cannot play PvE anymore.. did you even read my previous post? And I'm mostly referring to the players that go with 0 resilience full PvE sets like almost all the people out of One Spot and other random players.

It's funny how you always pretend I said stuff, while I corrected myself afterwards even... because I thought you guys would understand me but I guess you're too stupid to understand this issue. My English isn't the best we all know that but you get the message no need to insult / trashtalk me for it.
I did read your previous post, and I answered the question you asked me in that very same post. I understand what you're saying. Crystal clear. You asked why I "trashtalk" you "without an actual reason", and I gave you a clear answer and corrected you in the process.

And don't try to preach this shit to me. I've been advocating swp gear being a problem for years. But you know that very well, so I don't even get why you would ridicule yourself by questioning my standpoint. I can actually back mine up with argumentation that goes beyond "people do a lot of damage," or "Blizzard never intended for bla"

If you're going to question other peoples reading comprehension, that's fine, as long as you're willing to roll with the punches. In this case you'll be the punching bag, since my reading comprehension is fine. Yours is however questionable.
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