Firstaidkit vs Ezatt?

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Its not going to solve the problem really is it. Its just mixing the pve cancer with a rusty spoon because both factions stack it its not a one sided problem.

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Apuclevercow wrote:@deems -when+whereas

@cube @rottingham a part of the issue is that horde players mostly think that Alliance is totally abusing swp gears and the alliance players mostly think that Horde is abusing swp gears. With CF BGs, all will finally stop thinking it's a matter of faction, moreover with this feature, BGs must be more balanced, that's why it'll reduce the impact of swp gears.
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Balls wrote:
Apuclevercow wrote:@deems -when+whereas

@cube @rottingham a part of the issue is that horde players mostly think that Alliance is totally abusing swp gears and the alliance players mostly think that Horde is abusing swp gears. With CF BGs, all will finally stop thinking it's a matter of faction, moreover with this feature, BGs must be more balanced, that's why it'll reduce the impact of swp gears.
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Apuclevercow wrote:@deems -when+whereas

@cube @rottingham a part of the issue is that horde players mostly think that Alliance is totally abusing swp gears and the alliance players mostly think that Horde is abusing swp gears. With CF BGs, all will finally stop thinking it's a matter of faction, moreover with this feature, BGs must be more balanced, that's why it'll reduce the impact of swp gears.
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Apuclevercow wrote: @cube @rottingham a part of the issue is that horde players mostly think that Alliance is totally abusing swp gears and the alliance players mostly think that Horde is abusing swp gears. With CF BGs, all will finally stop thinking it's a matter of faction, moreover with this feature, BGs must be more balanced, that's why it'll reduce the impact of swp gears.
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It's true that cross fraction BGs won't fix swp gear abuse. The best way to fix that garbage would be ofc to remove it completely. Sadly hen doesn't have the balls to do it, since all the kids would complain.

It has been suggested before and I think it could have potential: minimum resilience requirements for bgs (for example you must have at least 200 resilience to join a bg/arena). That would ultimately force people to have at least some PVP gear when they're actually PVPing. People having swp gear could still use it in PVE, for what it was actually designed.
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Break wrote: It has been suggested before and I think it could have potential: minimum resilience requirements for bgs (for example you must have at least 200 resilience to join a bg/arena). That would ultimately force people to have at least some PVP gear when they're actually PVPing. People having swp gear could still use it in PVE, for what it was actually designed.
You mean it would force people to equip PvP gear to join a BG, and then change back to all out SWP once they're inside?
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Deems wrote:
Break wrote: It has been suggested before and I think it could have potential: minimum resilience requirements for bgs (for example you must have at least 200 resilience to join a bg/arena). That would ultimately force people to have at least some PVP gear when they're actually PVPing. People having swp gear could still use it in PVE, for what it was actually designed.
You mean it would force people to equip PvP gear to join a BG, and then change back to all out SWP once they're inside?
The concept wasn't for BG queue, it was for all damage output by any source from the player. We can literally scale it down based on the resilience factor.

However, I believed Cube ruled, or proved by some means other than an opinion that it was possible for a certain class and spec to still get around this and maintain high damage output. Additionally, the polls yielded very mixed opinions towards the system so it was never continued.
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Yes, even at a 250 resi cap it would hardly even make a slight difference. I can easily throw a 27-28% haste setup together with ~280 resi and a shitload of spellpower.

When Exurgo was testing various ways to make this work, it took me about 10m to break the system. Whip up a gear setup to get around the "restriction", fraps it, and make him a bit sad. Sorry man.

The problem is the gear and consumables. Unless either they're tackled directly, or you implement some heavy custom bullshit, you're stuck with the current situation.
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I think the consumables need to be tackled first, then swp gear.
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