About the poll to remove SWP gear

[Xaru]

All you had to do is farm

farm

You put this out of context. What i was saying is you didn't farm professions you farmed rep. The difference is, you farm rep by just doing some dailys, whereas farming professions involves travelling across the whole map to farm mats, visit profession trainers and farm the recipes. Even when you're capped out with one profession you'd naturally still have to farm more mats. But not on here, once you have the easily obtainable rep you're done.

To be fair though, professions don't give you that much of a boost. And if we had to farm mats as well nobody would bother using them at all, so there would be no point in having them. The thing with professions is everyone can use them, engi stuff and all, if they put the time in. So even S2 mages can own if they use engi stuff. Admittedly it was fairly easy to obtain, but then there's also the profession vendors in shattrath where people had to farm for rep.

[Deems]

To be fair though, professions don't give you that much of a boost.

[Mynce]

To be fair though, professions don't give you that much of a boost. And if we had to farm mats as well nobody would bother using them at all

Complete bullcrap

[Apuclevercow]

To be fair though, professions don't give you that much of a boost.

I srsly lol'd on this.

Xaru, btw, saying that you lose a lot vs PuG to infer something like "wee has swep castors bot somtims we lose donot remove it ok?" is quite funny.

[Gandraman]

Don't touch my bow, you can take the rest.

[Violentshock]

Yeah, let's ruin the last good TBC server for all the cool cats who still play it. Also toss my 500+ dollars of donation. Don't need it anyway. All the new bug fixes are sweet. But completely ruining this server is not sweet. IT'S SOUR. Hopefully corecraft comes out before this shit gets worse, then I actually have a place to go.

[Henhouse]

Yeah, let's ruin the last good TBC server for all the cool cats who still play it. Also toss my 500+ dollars of donation. Don't need it anyway. All the new bug fixes are sweet. But completely ruining this server is not sweet. IT'S SOUR. Hopefully corecraft comes out before this shit gets worse, then I actually have a place to go.

How about reading my reply first.

[Robotking]

i am not a very active player this year but i want to say this:

everything was better before SC was implemented

kthxbye

[Cube]

The info gathered from the poll will most likely be biased in the first place. The majority of the people participating are players who've settled on the server, and a large portion of those are donors who likes to make new players leave bg's, since the other donors has either left, or just don't give a fuck anymore. So I wouldn't worry about that if I were you.

The voice of a new generation of players won't be heard, because most of them won't participate in the poll. Since they're not really invested in the server, they'll spend their time exploring what sf has to offer, and not concern themselves with potential changes and the future ahead. They'll be looking for a tbc server, either because they liked the expansion back in the day, or because they want to try it out. They'll land here, and I have a feeling that the current situation isn't all that inviting. No idea if I'm right here, but I have a feeling that sf would've hosted a bigger population if other decisions had been made in the past.

When it comes to gear, I'm not sure Hen could do much even if he wanted to. If he wanted to remove swp gear, he'd have to walk on wet paint. The $5 donation wouldn't be that big of a deal. People would bitch, but it wouldn't be the end of the world. But since specific donations have been available for quite some time now, he's pretty much stuck in that corner unless he wants a major shitstorm on his hands, and I'm not sure he'd want to handle that amount of fecal matter. So I don't think you should worry about a gear wipe.

Some custom bullshit might have a slight change of being introduced, but I don't see a system that would solve anything in any sensible way. However I twist and turn it, a gear wipe is always the best decision if a change was to be made. They could tone swp items down with whatever system they come up with, but wiping the gear and introducing the gear from the previous raids (where 95% of the gear is missing from the malls I might add) makes more sense. More varied gear for a bit more complex and broad character customization would be introduced, and pvp gear would get a much deserved promotion. Releasing the same gear as progression gear for non-donors would even the gap a bit, and make the server a bit more fair overall. Tweaking resilience would be dangerous shit, and would majorly fuck things up, so they can't really "buff" survivability either. And even if a system was found, it would just make people who're not up-to-date confused. Overall, it's just a terrible idea.

But, I could be wrong, would even like to be wrong. Maybe the middle road will be found somewhere in this cancer-ridden muck. Don't think it'll happen though.

I do find it funny that there has even been a consideration of introducing a custom system like this, since in the past it's all been very, very anti-custom around here. But I guess it's a good thing, because it most likely means that eyes have been opened. It's a bit ironic though. For being a non-custom tbc end-game server, it simulates being a custom tbc server better than it simulates being a tbc end-game server.

And Xaru, read what you've written before you press 'submit'. It'll save you the trouble of looking like a class A retarded cunt fuck. Because fucking Christ, you make no fucking sense at all, and your so called arguments are ridden with holes and stupidity.

[Exsurgo]

Hopefully corecraft comes out before this shit gets worse, then I actually have a place to go.

I really don't get that. People will never, ever, ever be able to run around with maxed out consumable spam and full Sunwell on Corecraft. It will never happen. I doubt anyone in the private server community will ever be able to clear un-nerfed Sunwell.