Boost a bit of Retri Pala

[Nazarleokas]

Dear everyone,

I was just wondering if by any chance the Dev team will boost retri pala a bit.

As we all know there's almost no dps paladins. The reason is ofc the lack of dps. The dmg output depends on the proc chance of seal of command. Maybe we will see more dps paladin if the dev team can boost the proc chance of Seal of command a bit, or even more with other spels.

Not just for pve but also for pvp it will affect pp's chooise. So far there's none high rating pala teams. Because of the lack of cc. No one plays pala in 2v2. With a bit change, It might give pala's some light for the arena if the retri spec is relyable. Ofc, for pve as well.

[Deems]

lol no

[Terrion]

lol no

[Apuclevercow]

Rpal S4 isn't that bad, I remember some players as Ruskya playing Rsham/Rpal with at least 70-80% wins.

There are 2 possible things :

• - You're a bad paladin
  - You're low geared

[Exsurgo]

Seal Twisting has been fixed, so this will provide a dps increase to Ret paladins (blood elves anyway).

[Xaru]

Seal Twisting has been fixed, so this will provide a dps increase to Ret paladins (blood elves anyway).

Can you add SoV to blood elves and SoB to alliance? That's how it should have been in TBC and I think a lot of us would be very happy with that, especially as Seal Twisting is only useful for blood elves unless you want to get a stun proc with SoC, also while I'm grateful that you added seal twisting it's not something that is going to make even a minor change in PvP, it's more of a high level ability that few people know how to do and requires a lot of luck. I wonder if the seal twisting you're thinking of is different?

Anyway, there is no way we can be more viable unless the proc rate for SoC was boosted to beyond Blizzard's normal rate. If that were done we would at least stand more of a chance to surprise people, but I honestly doubt that will happen and I think at the end of the day we all have to accept how it is for us here. If you're skilled you can eek out wins, but it's very difficult.

[Exsurgo]

Seal Twisting has been fixed, so this will provide a dps increase to Ret paladins (blood elves anyway).

Can you add SoV to blood elves and SoB to alliance? That's how it should have been in TBC and I think a lot of us would be very happy with that, especially as Seal Twisting is only useful for blood elves unless you want to get a stun proc with SoC, also while I'm grateful that you added seal twisting it's not something that is going to make even a minor change in PvP, it's more of a high level ability that few people know how to do and requires a lot of luck. I wonder if the seal twisting you're thinking of is different?

Anyway, there is no way we can be more viable unless the proc rate for SoC was boosted to beyond Blizzard's normal rate. If that were done we would at least stand more of a chance to surprise people, but I honestly doubt that will happen and I think at the end of the day we all have to accept how it is for us here. If you're skilled you can eek out wins, but it's very difficult.

I have often thought about Blizzard's dumb decision to give the dps seal of horde, and the gimmick seal to Alliance. It makes the race disparity between Retribution Paladins extreme and is not particulaly healthy for the game. I doubt people would want us to change such a mechanic however.

I would also add that Seal twisting makes far more than a minor change to pvp. Basically every hit you make has a 40~45% chance to proc seal of command, and every time this hapens, providing the paladin is fast enough, you can get a guaranteed (2) procs of seal of blood when the command seal strikes the target.

If one or two of the seal of blood procs crit, you can easily get 1.5-2k extra damage from that one GCD. It also scales with windfury. With a bit of luck, you can pull this off twice in a hammer of justice combo.

[Xaru]

Seal Twisting has been fixed, so this will provide a dps increase to Ret paladins (blood elves anyway).

Can you add SoV to blood elves and SoB to alliance? That's how it should have been in TBC and I think a lot of us would be very happy with that, especially as Seal Twisting is only useful for blood elves unless you want to get a stun proc with SoC, also while I'm grateful that you added seal twisting it's not something that is going to make even a minor change in PvP, it's more of a high level ability that few people know how to do and requires a lot of luck. I wonder if the seal twisting you're thinking of is different?

Anyway, there is no way we can be more viable unless the proc rate for SoC was boosted to beyond Blizzard's normal rate. If that were done we would at least stand more of a chance to surprise people, but I honestly doubt that will happen and I think at the end of the day we all have to accept how it is for us here. If you're skilled you can eek out wins, but it's very difficult.

I have often thought about Blizzard's dumb decision to give the dps seal of horde, and the gimmick seal to Alliance. It makes the race disparity between Retribution Paladins extreme and is not particulaly healthy for the game. I doubt people would want us to change such a mechanic however.

I would also add that Seal twisting makes far more than a minor change to pvp. Basically every hit you make has a 40~45% chance to proc seal of command, and every time this hapens, providing the paladin is fast enough, you can get a guaranteed (2) procs of seal of blood when the command seal strikes the target.

If one or two of the seal of blood procs crit, you can easily get 1.5-2k extra damage from that one GCD. It also scales with windfury. With a bit of luck, you can pull this off twice in a hammer of justice combo.

Huh, that sounds cool. Would there be any way you would consider adding it to the alliance? It's only fair I think since the blood elves already have far better racials and SoV is useless compared to SoR for prot paladins since at the high levels you have caps + spell dmg. I would like to try it out.

[Nazarleokas]

Rpal S4 isn't that bad, I remember some players as Ruskya playing Rsham/Rpal with at least 70-80% wins.

There are 2 possible things :

• - You're a bad paladin
  - You're low geared

I wonder if u ever played pala. If u don't then dont troll. Watch the arena ladder. Find the first pala before talking. The TBC pala's are so broken on dps.

[Nazarleokas]

Seal Twisting has been fixed, so this will provide a dps increase to Ret paladins (blood elves anyway).

I would also add that Seal twisting makes far more than a minor change to pvp. Basically every hit you make has a 40~45% chance to proc seal of command, and every time this hapens, providing the paladin is fast enough,

It also scales with windfury. With a bit of luck, you can pull this off twice in a hammer of justice combo.

Seal Twisting is good. But it drains ur mana very fast. As a retridin u dont have that much mana. For pve, u shouldnt even think about Seal Twisting if u dont have a pocket healer.

you can get a guaranteed (2) procs of seal of blood when the command seal strikes the target. If one or two of the seal of blood procs crit, you can easily get 1.5-2k extra damage from that one GCD.

I wonder how u do it to get 2 procs of SoB when the command strikes. Beside, the most unbalanced between pala and the other dps is: In order to make the good burst dmg(Seal Twisting), u really have to time it right. And the timing is within a Weapon swing. I wonder how many pala have ever heard/tried Seal twisting, While other dps are a lot easier to play compare to a Millisecond reactions time of Retridin.