SWP items

[Apuclevercow]

Xaru, your point is totally wrong, some classes are more OP than some others and it's how works BC but with PvP gears, if you are decent you can win others classes on BGs. (I don't talk about duels where any decent rogue or mage can win others dps classes)

But, a BG has some goals (towers, bases, flags) and the normal end for factions is to win the battleground. With SWP gears, the new goal is to get the maximum of hk/damages, they will do anything to slow the progress of the enemy without trying to win, that's why BGs became boring and the major part of Smolderforge is here for BGs, not for some 2s or duels.

N.B. You talk about Shadow priest but a lot are playing with SWP gears, it will then have an impact on these priests.

[Comehere]

most of the people who play on this server are here for the simple reason that its TBC. Very few probably go into a server with the mindframe "holy shit I'm going to get full swp gear and fill my inventory with consumables.

Well said.

Removing swp is kinda bad fiscal decision, since most people tend to donate for swp, not so much for s4. Upcoming changes regarding swp are not going to solve anything. But removing consumables might. Killing swp ele sham who doesn't have fap/shield ward option is going to be easier. But then like someone already said in some other thread - removing/restricting shield wards and faps will make ppl roll rogues to counter those swp hastekins/ele shams.

But to be honest, lately I dont see a problem, yes fap's are anonying if I play with a rogue friend and some opponent uses fap, it's kinda pain in the ass but we tend to make it anyway. I barely face swp extravaganza premades anymore, but then it's just me, if most of ppl have problem with swp, then remove it/restrict it.

In conclusion and summary, making balanced server is hell of challenging job and I pray for Henry and staff to make it so.

[Xaru]

On an unrelated note will Henry be buying the fixes that guy offered?

[Wacco]

On an unrelated note will Henry be buying the fixes that guy offered?

On an unrelated note, are you willing to pay more to prevent the update?

[Apuclevercow]

Xaru talk about balance but in 3 spells he killed me on a BG (11k hp).

[Xaru]

On an unrelated note will Henry be buying the fixes that guy offered?

On an unrelated note, are you willing to pay more to prevent the update?

No, of course not. But thinking about it I wonder if Henry thought about the fact that he will lose donations because of this too.

Xaru talk about balance but in 3 spells he killed me on a BG (11k hp).

True, but that's only with all buffs, berserker, trinkets, potions, and I also have 8k hp, 11k armor, and 17 resilience. I die the most in every BG. I'm a kamikazedin. Would you rather die a quick, swift and awesome death, or a slow and painful death at the hands of an unstoppable Sl/Sl resilience capped Warlock?

[Otaku]

I don't see how this change will help the server, it's not because a ele shaman or a balance druid are in pve gear that the game is inbalanced, the matter of the fact is that people don't even know who to focus and who to cc, ofc it's hard that way. Would be like on LoL leaving the adc alone until the end of the team fight, and then qq about how much dmg he deals.
Playing a cloth balance druid is really fun, mostly because I don't mind when i get 2 shooted, or dying in a cheap shot.
Anyways the only way i see this changing the server is by reducing the amount of elemental shamans a lot and increase the amount of doters, especially warlocks. Regarding balance druids they are still viable on s4/t6, but people will eventually qq about the 1 sec starfire too, so rip elemental and shockadin specs :D
BY THE LIGHT OF THE MOON! POOF!

[Deems]

Would you rather die a quick, swift and awesome death, or a slow and painful death at the hands of an unstoppable Sl/Sl resilience capped Warlock?

The latter. Atleast I'll be able to actually do something instead of being globaled by some PvE geared idiot.

[Comehere]

Playing a cloth balance druid is really fun

[Apuclevercow]

Playing a cloth paladin is really fun