Pls remove Free Action Potion

[QuantumVoid]

So, according to you, if you knew someone who would be bedridden by a nasty disease, for years, you'd let them be in that condition. Ok makes sense. For a fucking sub-saharan bonobo...

[Firstaidkit]

Comparing FAPs with diseases, k.

FUN FACT: All the people that bitch about removing the FAPs or the materials for it are either playing a rogue or mage as main class. Keep that in mind!

[Cube]

You're missing my point. My point is that Blizzard didn't intend for anything as it is now on Smolderforge, something you keep insisting that they do. Obviously they intended for the potion to be in the game, otherwise it wouldn't. No one needs to state that, since the client does so by default. The whole "Blizzard said so" argument is flawed wherever you apply it around here, since we're not governed by Blizzard, but by the Smolderforge administration.

And no, I'm not saying "don't listen to them, listen to me", as I've stated within this very thread. But you seem to be very selective about what you read, which isn't really all that surprising, since you tend to follow this pattern in whatever debate you chose to participate in. What I've said, and I'm saying it again, is that the administration should take the arguments from both parties into consideration, and make a final decision.

FUN FACT: All the people that bitch about removing the FAPs or the materials for it are either playing a rogue or mage as main class. Keep that in mind!

Yes, this is the whole point. It puts certain classes at a major disadvantage, while it barely makes a difference for others. There's no other profession based consumable/item that does this as severely as free action potions, which is the main problem. This is why it shouldn't be up for a poll, but decided by someone with an objective perspective. In other words, not me, not you, not the community.

It's fucking sad that I have to spend just as much time explaining things to you as I spend on the actual topic.

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Half the playerbase? You're exaggerating. From where are you getting this data? I actually only see a few guilds use them. Also according to you anyone can get those flask so I suggest you get those flasks yourself. Why change something that has been like this for years?

Yes, since I wasn't being literal.

And yes, I can make free action potions, thousands if I wish. But I don't. And even if I did, it wouldn't solve anything. I chose to not use them, but that's irrelevant to the topic at hand. That's a choice I make, and I live with the consequences of that choice. It has nothing to do about how I feel about it in general, or what I say here.

And lastly, that's like saying "why change anything?". Because change can be good.

[Firstaidkit]

You're missing my point. My point is that Blizzard didn't intend for anything as it is now on Smolderforge, something you keep insisting that they do. Obviously they intended for the potion to be in the game, otherwise it wouldn't. No one needs to state that, since the client does so by default. The whole "Blizzard said so" argument is flawed wherever you apply it around here, since we're not governed by Blizzard, but by the Smolderforge administration.

You also cannot deny that Blizzard put this in the game for a reason. And if you disable the item it seems more like a custom feature to me in my eyes. But I like the idea of letting players farm for it through daily's in World PvP. That sounds pretty exciting to be honest.

And no, I'm not saying "don't listen to them, listen to me", as I've stated within this very thread. But you seem to be very selective about what you read, which isn't really all that surprising, since you tend to follow this pattern in whatever debate you chose to participate in. What I've said, and I'm saying it again, is that the administration should take the arguments from both parties into consideration, and make a final decision.

You are sometimes pretty selective with my posts as well and you right the administration should make the final decision.

FUN FACT: All the people that bitch about removing the FAPs or the materials for it are either playing a rogue or mage as main class. Keep that in mind!

Yes, this is the whole point. It puts certain classes at a major disadvantage, while it barely makes a difference for others. There's no other profession based consumable/item that does this as severely as free action potions, which is the main problem. This is why it shouldn't be up for a poll, but decided by someone with an objective perspective. In other words, not me, not you, not the community.

It's fucking sad that I have to spend just as much time explaining things to you as I spend on the actual topic.

True but it balances things more out for the lower top tier classes in this patch. Also there is actually another consumble that is pretty OP for hunters: Arcane Bombs they have an advantage for Hunters they can do a double drain on you. It's just a pretty rare recipe.

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Half the playerbase? You're exaggerating. From where are you getting this data? I actually only see a few guilds use them. Also according to you anyone can get those flask so I suggest you get those flasks yourself. Why change something that has been like this for years?

Yes, since I wasn't being literal.

And yes, I can make free action potions, thousands if I wish. But I don't. And even if I did, it wouldn't solve anything. I chose to not use them, but that's irrelevant to the topic at hand. That's a choice I make, and I live with the consequences of that choice. It has nothing to do about how I feel about it in general, or what I say here.

And lastly, that's like saying "why change anything?". Because change can be good.

Oke man but anyways I'm not even using those FAPs that much myself. I just stated my opinion in here it's part of the game so I think you should deal with it.

[Gregoriano]

Make it unique(1), like healthstone or something. It won't get removed and won't get spammed either.

[Cube]

You also cannot deny that Blizzard put this in the game for a reason. And if you disable the item it seems more like a custom feature to me in my eyes. But I like the idea of letting players farm for it through daily's in World PvP. That sounds pretty exciting to be honest.

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You are sometimes pretty selective with my posts as well and you right the administration should make the final decision.

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True but it balances things more out for the lower top tier classes in this patch. Also there is actually another consumble that is pretty OP for hunters: Arcane Bombs they have an advantage for Hunters they can do a double drain on you. It's just a pretty rare recipe.

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Oke man but anyways I'm not even using those FAPs that much myself. I just stated my opinion in here it's part of the game so I think you should deal with it.

Reason with restrictions in mind, sure. Although I doubt they had any good reason to add this. It's a leftover stupidity from the early stages of the game that never got much attention passed that point, and not even then. And as far as custom features go, look around you. You have a whole server that's custom. But I'll repeat myself, yet again, I never said remove it.

No, I'm never selective about anything you, or anyone else say if I'm going to argue with it. If I jump into a debate I try to take everything everyone says into consideration.

In a sense it adds a form of balance, but I would be reluctant to even call it that. But in general this goes for a lot of what professions have to offer, the problem is - yet again - availability. Most consumables/prof. items gives the user an advantage in general. A quick heal, some mana, damage absorption, a speed boost, a disorient etc. Some of these advantages works better for certain classes, but they're far from useless for others. Arcane bombs are great for every class in the game. Same could be said about frost bombs. They're great for everyone, but mages with shatters gains an additional benefit from them. The difference with free action pots is that it specifically hampers certain classes and specs for half a minute, with a two minute cooldown. It's retarded on so many levels.

And obviously I have to deal with it, I have no choice in the matter. It's ridiculous how much this shit is being used, which is why I've been pushing for a change for what, a year?

[Cube]

Make it unique(1), like healthstone or something. It won't get removed and won't get spammed either.

That's not a bad idea.

[QuantumVoid]

That is actually the best idea in this thread so far. People will be able to use only one per BG, and sometimes it might actually prove interesting, spicing things up (For example, if you get zerged by 39473293 rogues and 393829 mages without any cooldowns).

Well thought.

[Cube]

That is actually the best idea in this thread so far. People will be able to use only one per BG, and sometimes it might actually prove interesting, spicing things up (For example, if you get zerged by 39473293 rogues and 393829 mages without any cooldowns).

Well thought.

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAha fap user shit rogue

[QuantumVoid]

All yours, Cube.