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pevato wrote:
I love when you say "I didn't mean to hurt the server THIS bad" ... what? Are you saying you only wanted to hurt the server a little?
Go outside for Christs' Sake.
maybe you should tag along, random....
trying to find a actually solution here.
and your just hating a player. bitch please just go somewhere else to shout
how much you hate fak or how much you get farmed.
come back when your cooled off and actually can join the discussion.
I've been here for a week, I don't hate anyone and don't really give a shit tbh. I care for the server because I like it, but that's about it.
It's people like you calling new players "random" that makes people not stay. Obviously i'm a random if im new you smart ass.
Oh, and instead of finding a new way to tick people off every time you post, why don't you go back and read what i've written, because I post on possible solutions to help out too. Get your head of your e-peen please.
pevato wrote:
I love when you say "I didn't mean to hurt the server THIS bad" ... what? Are you saying you only wanted to hurt the server a little?
Go outside for Christs' Sake.
maybe you should tag along, random....
trying to find a actually solution here.
and your just hating a player. bitch please just go somewhere else to shout
how much you hate fak or how much you get farmed.
come back when your cooled off and actually can join the discussion.
I've been here for a week, I don't hate anyone and don't really give a shit tbh. I care for the server because I like it, but that's about it.
It's people like you calling new players "random" that makes people not stay. Obviously i'm a random if im new you smart ass.
Oh, and instead of finding a new way to tick people off every time you post, why don't you go back and read what i've written, because I post on possible solutions to help out too. Get your head of your e-peen please.
yea the few solutions you actually proposed between the fak hate.
look ill say this again go somewhere else to hate and rage.
from post nr.1 i've seen you hate on a player who also just apologized and what do you do in response?
Pevato wrote:
Go outside for Christs' Sake.
THAT'S the reason for me to call you a random.
im calling you a random because you act like a fagget and your previous posts prove it.
i've chosen my words and reacted normal to you in the beginning. you however:
Pevato wrote: don't really give a shit tbh.
see what i did there? same thing you were doing with that screenshot of yours.
so like i said go somewhere else to hate.
While it's expected to defend that time investment, it's getting ridiculous, just saying.
But maybe I have no freaking clue what hate means these days.
Anyway... 9 pages and not a solution to the problem, we're doing it wrong.
Peekaboo wrote:While it's expected to defend that time investment, it's getting ridiculous, just saying.
But maybe I have no freaking clue what hate means these days.
Anyway... 9 pages and not a solution to the problem, we're doing it wrong.
The reason a solution hasn't been posted is because there isn't a real solution to this. It's a community problem and its because not a lot of people realize how bad it is and/or are just ignorant to it. FAK himself said he never meant it to get this far, even though he is associated with the rise of these things no one can put this all on him (not saying that everyone is). The problem here is that people are looking out for themselves rather than the server. People want to be #1 and people like that will continue to farm in order to get to the tops of the chart. They don't care or just don't realize how much they hurt everything else just to up their own HK count and that's why we have this major issue. I don't expect any of you to be farming graveyards. Ever. You all have no excuse to be doing it. You ALL know how bad it is and how much it hurts this server and if I ever found any of you doing it I wouldn't be surprised if some bad shit started happening to you. Ignorance is not an acceptable excuse in this matter, especially since I imagine not a lot of people pay attention to the forums as it is.
We will do what we can to fix the problem but so far every idea has been shot down with "people will leave" or "I don't want to give up what I've worked for" by someone or another. Truth is, if you want us to help you you're going to have to give some leeway. Some people are just going to have to suffer. If you don't want to been restricted by more rules than think of a way to fix it on your own and spread the word throughout the community. To be honest if we did something to tamper with things that wont fix the people that are constantly looking for ways to better themselves over everyone else, it just makes it harder. You want to really fix these problems then you have to hit it at the root which is the mentality of the players themselves.
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Riski, I don't see how you can actually fix this. If you're in a BG, and you're getting killed, but somehow, for example better people join and now you have the upper hand, you expect them to just sit back and not do anything? No one will do that, they will go for the revenge and camp them back.
Not many people pay attention to the forums at all, and not many people will agree. Truthfully, removing titles and capping hk's will only piss off the hardcore bg players. Even if horde were to reroll alliance, they would just camp the GY as alliance. There's no way to fix that problem .. it's part of the bg.
I believe the root of the problem is how cheap it is to donate. Don't get me wrong, it's extremely nice and generous to get that gear, but at the same time, it's $5 for things that should be free since they are a part of the game, and because they are so cheap, many people will donate. Now, im always seeing people on alliance begging for someone to donate for them because they can't donate from where they live. On the other hand, I feel like there are twice as many horde donors as alliance, probably because of how many more hordes there are in general, and it affects the new comers because they don't stand a chance vs the fully geared players.
So, honestly, I don't see a specific answer to the problem. Even if you were to remove title, and cap HK's, would that really make people not want to PvP anymore? Doubt it. I personally would continue to use my char just as much, (doesn't mean GY camping) but people don't think that way, or see the chain reaction it has here. The population is so low that any fluctuation in the pop. is a drastic change. If our guild doesn't have 15-20 people online, it's like a 95% loss rate for me lol.
Our only hope is to remove the hate between the guilds, and find some type of peace. Maybe offer the alliance some small prize (my old server gave all the alliance swift magic brooms, or a GM spell for a buff like kings) which made people re-roll alliance. Horde has better racials, and has always had more players.
I hope we can just get a mutual satisfaction between everyone, because everything said in the thread so far will hurt someone, and most likely not fix the problem.
Sorry for the long post lol. Just said what was coming to mind.
P.S - just sort of a fun fact; I just went to the bg master. Keep in mind it's 3:45 am realm time, and I saw 14 hordes and 3 alliance. :<
Alliance should slowly but surely start to balance out again. The "PLEASE PLAY ALLIANCE" message for new players worked WONDERS when we had it on.
It will take me a long time to get the new core up to date to be compatible with Smolderforge, but it has separate queues for premades. That should help a bit in the future.
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Henhouse wrote:\ The "PLEASE PLAY ALLIANCE" message
Lols :D
Henhouse wrote:It will take me a long time to get the new core up to date to be compatible with Smolderforge, but it has separate queues for premades. That should help a bit in the future.
What do you mean by seperate queues? And I hope they help the balancing problems too.
Henhouse wrote:\ The "PLEASE PLAY ALLIANCE" message
Lols :D
Henhouse wrote:It will take me a long time to get the new core up to date to be compatible with Smolderforge, but it has separate queues for premades. That should help a bit in the future.
What do you mean by seperate queues? And I hope they help the balancing problems too.
Well I believe it's really a Wrath feature but it's been brought into a few TBC cores. Think of multiplayer games like League of Legends for example. If you queue with friends, it tries to pair you up with another premade group instead of randoms so it's more balanced. Same concept. The system tries to pair premade vs. premade as best it can, given how many people are queuing. If there is none to be found, after a set amount of time they'll be placed in the normal queue bracket.
This is all done in the coding. You'll notice no change in-game.
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