Title rank requirements coming back down

[Firstaidkit]

there you go again FAK, with that veteran mentality.
"oh i have 150 days playtime!!!! i want a mount!!!!" no.
and you're right, i haven't logged in tbc for weeks. because i know whats happening on the forums, and through other SF players I talk to daily

I only suggested it and yes I consider myself as a veteran wether you like it or not.

also, before you compare yourself to our administrator's play time, get your facts right. tired of you already, not even going to reply to your posts anymore because you're just going to piss me off.

Henhouse goes to college. It's barely ending now. Henhouse has a social life. Henhouse has a personal life. Henhouse makes more money right now than you ever will in your entire lifetime. Where the hell do you think he gets time to play? He never has time to play because he's behind the scenes making the server better. Are you saying the administrator has to have no life and over 200days playtime? what do you even know about the server besides the foreigners and the title bullshit that's going on?

I know that's only in-game playing time and I know that Henhouse is a busy man did I said something otherwise? No, I didn't meant anything else with it. Henhouse is not only making more money then me but also then anyone else here but that's not the matter of the subject why are you even bringing this up? I was just comparing with how much time I wasted here and that it would be nice to get something unique for it but that's not appreciated while I thought this was a forum and I'm allowed to share opinions and suggestions here right. And I have the right to discuss about this honorable kills title subject.

you can forget about the title cost going up, at least for right now. it will probably be raised again in the future when a lot of people have the title again. even so, 20,000 kills is a lot on a server with 400 people. but then again it's not hard to GY farm and premade farm bads for hours on end. i am done with this thread, you're crying over something so trivial, and something that wasn't even implemented in TBC. it's not even suppose to be here

Yeah, I noticed that the new titles will get implemented tonight well I guess I stick to my other two cool titles then, cya

P.S. I love how Imperium, Deems and even Toosh are putting words in my mouth I never said I was 'unique' or my amount of HK's is. I said the High Warlord title is 'unique' and therefore I think it should be way more then 20 000 HK's.

[Cube]

I consider myself as a veteran

:D

[Riski]

This was such a ridiculous splooge of arguments that I finally had time to read.

The problem with titles, or so I have heard, is that "hardcore" players are farming GY and making the game un fun for "casual" players. Now, whether you are "hardcore" or "casual" if someone is making a game un fun for you they should not be rewarded. Ever. The fact is that making the titles so high tempts people to grind honor so much that they end up hurting the server. The reaction we want from lowering the cap is the exact one FAK and other "veteren" players have given: 20k is nothing. If 20k is nothing then it's not worth farming HKs daily or GY camping.

Imperium is right when he says that increasing the HK does not make the title harder to achieve. All we can do is make it take longer. Do not confuse difficulty with length. It does make you a "veteran" to have taken all that time to grind the HKs so I understand why FAK and others may consider themselves veterans, they are. But no one specified what kind of veteran. If you were a veteran of helping the server grow, contributing to the community, or making sure everyone has fun then yay! You are the veteran we want. However, if you are a veteran of camping GY and HK farming off of people who are trying to have fun by playing normally than you are not the veteran we want. Please keep that in mind for the future. We do not want part of our server to thrive off the suffering of the other parts. Sacrificing casual players' fun will never be worth giving hardcore players something to work for, and as such implementing changes that cause casual players' to suffer will not stay.

And as a personal statement towards FAK, do not think that because you are a veteran you are special. While having the time played and the HKs you have does make you experienced and a well known player, it does not give you the right to demand that we give you special treatment. Play like a normal player because that is what you are, and that is what everyone else should be. Veterans should show character and demonstrate leadership to the "newbies." You are complaining about a reverse on a feature that hurt a lot of players, and whether or not the reverse will hurt you should not matter because it is more important to rectify a mistake than cater the ones that benefited from it. I would hope that someone with your play time and experience would understand putting the server first before oneself, but it seems that you have decided to value your personal time invested more than other newcomers and for that you deserve no special treatment.

[Imperium]

This was such a ridiculous splooge of arguments that I finally had time to read.

The problem with titles, or so I have heard, is that "hardcore" players are farming GY and making the game un fun for "casual" players. Now, whether you are "hardcore" or "casual" if someone is making a game un fun for you they should not be rewarded. Ever. The fact is that making the titles so high tempts people to grind honor so much that they end up hurting the server. The reaction we want from lowering the cap is the exact one FAK and other "veteren" players have given: 20k is nothing. If 20k is nothing then it's not worth farming HKs daily or GY camping.

Imperium is right when he says that increasing the HK does not make the title harder to achieve. All we can do is make it take longer. Do not confuse difficulty with length. It does make you a "veteran" to have taken all that time to grind the HKs so I understand why FAK and others may consider themselves veterans, they are. But no one specified what kind of veteran. If you were a veteran of helping the server grow, contributing to the community, or making sure everyone has fun then yay! You are the veteran we want. However, if you are a veteran of camping GY and HK farming off of people who are trying to have fun by playing normally than you are not the veteran we want. Please keep that in mind for the future. We do not want part of our server to thrive off the suffering of the other parts. Sacrificing casual players' fun will never be worth giving hardcore players something to work for, and as such implementing changes that cause casual players' to suffer will not stay.

And as a personal statement towards FAK, do not think that because you are a veteran you are special. While having the time played and the HKs you have does make you experienced and a well known player, it does not give you the right to demand that we give you special treatment. Play like a normal player because that is what you are, and that is what everyone else should be. Veterans should show character and demonstrate leadership to the "newbies." You are complaining about a reverse on a feature that hurt a lot of players, and whether or not the reverse will hurt you should not matter because it is more important to rectify a mistake than cater the ones that benefited from it. I would hope that someone with your play time and experience would understand putting the server first before oneself, but it seems that you have decided to value your personal time invested more than other newcomers and for that you deserve no special treatment.

thaaaaank you.

[Overdozze]

This was such a ridiculous splooge of arguments that I finally had time to read.

The problem with titles, or so I have heard, is that "hardcore" players are farming GY and making the game un fun for "casual" players. Now, whether you are "hardcore" or "casual" if someone is making a game un fun for you they should not be rewarded. Ever. The fact is that making the titles so high tempts people to grind honor so much that they end up hurting the server. The reaction we want from lowering the cap is the exact one FAK and other "veteren" players have given: 20k is nothing. If 20k is nothing then it's not worth farming HKs daily or GY camping.

Imperium is right when he says that increasing the HK does not make the title harder to achieve. All we can do is make it take longer. Do not confuse difficulty with length. It does make you a "veteran" to have taken all that time to grind the HKs so I understand why FAK and others may consider themselves veterans, they are. But no one specified what kind of veteran. If you were a veteran of helping the server grow, contributing to the community, or making sure everyone has fun then yay! You are the veteran we want. However, if you are a veteran of camping GY and HK farming off of people who are trying to have fun by playing normally than you are not the veteran we want. Please keep that in mind for the future. We do not want part of our server to thrive off the suffering of the other parts. Sacrificing casual players' fun will never be worth giving hardcore players something to work for, and as such implementing changes that cause casual players' to suffer will not stay.

And as a personal statement towards FAK, do not think that because you are a veteran you are special. While having the time played and the HKs you have does make you experienced and a well known player, it does not give you the right to demand that we give you special treatment. Play like a normal player because that is what you are, and that is what everyone else should be. Veterans should show character and demonstrate leadership to the "newbies." You are complaining about a reverse on a feature that hurt a lot of players, and whether or not the reverse will hurt you should not matter because it is more important to rectify a mistake than cater the ones that benefited from it. I would hope that someone with your play time and experience would understand putting the server first before oneself, but it seems that you have decided to value your personal time invested more than other newcomers and for that you deserve no special treatment.

I will carry your babies! True veterans are people like Imperium where when needed they come with constructive feedback/opinions.100000hks are shit if you don't know the smell of air or can't reach 1500 AR.
/endthread

[Donttouch]

I am pretty sure he did not demand the mounts etc. he just stated that he may deserve them for the effort he puts into his character in having the highest server HK's

As much as I hate FAK and all those other fgts that have these huge ego's he has a valid point. Put it this way, if you had spent 150days playing on a shadow priest (boring as fuck) you would want some kind of special recognition. Another thing I have notice, and sorry to be a wanker to my guild <3 Ezatt is that I have never personally seen FAK GY farm and I solo que a lot, even with Passion. This may be to do with the type of player I am. Hopefully this is true which means that he is not causing players to leave so anything half the people in this thread said is invalid.

I have played this server since the start on my account and have watched his HK's grow and I would personally like to say GZ to him for getting there. It is an achievement even if he is not the best player I have ever seen (jk 1vs2'd him bad priest).

I have recently come back to the server after previously quitting due to it becoming boring and have been on and off for years! I would personally like to thank all the trolls and everyone on the horde premades with FAK because if I didn't constantly BG I would not be here enjoying myself and would have quit completely.

I think a few tweeks to the system, offer new mounts and tabards released to encourage fair pvp as well as maybe a new world pvp area which when you die you get taken back to the mall so that you cant be farmed, timer on WSG say 20-30minutes (not long and constant farming) and maybe well, you guys are the veterans. I am sure you can think of something! I had another idea, AT use a PVP area where you can only be in groups of 3! imagine that in a huge world pvp area! would be madness and fun as fuck!

I probably wont play for much longer, due to the fact that all this drama is happening! I want to be motivated with rewards to stay here via PVP! HK's is the best way! I am slowly losing the motivation to farm the titles now :/

Anyway hope all this can be resolved :(

[Deems]

Put it this way, if you had spent 150days playing on a shadow priest (boring as fuck) you would want some kind of special recognition.

He does have some special recognition. Thats being "famous" on the server.

[Euthanized]

This turned oh so very juicy. Before HW/GM was raised to 50k, I was about 1k away from getting Grand Marshal, and sure, when it was raised, I was a bummed out for a quick minute, but It's just a aesthetic feature. There is no real difference from Field Marshal to Grand. It doesn't make you a better player. So I just said 'Whatever'. It's not that big of a deal to me.

If something as trivial and silly as this is twisting everyones pannies, then I'm all for disabling it, even temporary, just until all of the little girls that are complaining about it, to calm down, and shut the fuck up.

[Imperium]

This turned oh so very juicy. Before HW/GM was raised to 50k, I was about 1k away from getting Grand Marshal, and sure, when it was raised, I was a bummed out for a quick minute, but It's just a aesthetic feature. There is no real difference from Field Marshal to Grand. It doesn't make you a better player. So I just said 'Whatever'. It's not that big of a deal to me.

If something as trivial and silly as this is twisting everyones pannies, then I'm all for disabling it, even temporary, just until all of the little girls that are complaining about it, to calm down, and shut the fuck up.

this.

[Cube]

This turned oh so very juicy. Before HW/GM was raised to 50k, I was about 1k away from getting Grand Marshal, and sure, when it was raised, I was a bummed out for a quick minute, but It's just a aesthetic feature. There is no real difference from Field Marshal to Grand. It doesn't make you a better player. So I just said 'Whatever'. It's not that big of a deal to me.

If something as trivial and silly as this is twisting everyones pannies, then I'm all for disabling it, even temporary, just until all of the little girls that are complaining about it, to calm down, and shut the fuck up.

Bushganking is almost as low as gy farming. Almost.