Make GY farming bannable

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Cube wrote:
No it doesn't. It has an indirect effect, and that's stretching it. But you can't "solve" anything with that reasoning, because then you might as well just remove and ban everything. In other words, it's stupid.

Players will always nerdrage.

Some players will always have better gear than others.

Players will outnumber other players in quite a lot of situations, especially when it comes to BG's.

Donation "rewards" will never go away.

Some people will care about irrelevant shit, like what other people think about their virtual clothes.

Drama will always exist, GY farming or not.

People will always find some way to be fucking dumb.
QFT, you do have a good point there but all i really want is a solution againt this upper rising problem.

its maybe a stupid issue to talk about but to me its rather annoying since i pvp alot here.
thats all really i just said ban cuz thats how i feel about but i also said ppl are free to give there own ideas.
now we have been taknig this topic a bit off-topic by trying to prove my argument.
and your right i doesnt always work that way like i mentioned in earlier posts.
but looking aside that matter what would your advice be then cube?
or for that part if anyone knows a better solution lets hear so.
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Re: Make GY farming bannable

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Cube wrote:Lower the duration on Deserter or something. Maybe remove the debuff after the BG has been going on for XX minutes. Far from a perfect solution, but it's better than banning people for playing a BG in a particular way.

Best solution would be to put a timer on WSG, if that's possible. GY farming in EotS and AB ends fairly quick, since there's already a "timer" on them because of their mechanics. WSG is the only real problem, since people are dumb enough to just zerg down into the team that's camping.
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I also think it should be bannable. Though I very often do GY camping. But i do it by my self. Not with a healer behind my back. When the allis res up I usually wait for the last on to leave, sap and pew pew 1v1. Most of the time i get outnumbered fast but thats what makes it challenging.
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Mynce wrote:maybe it is asking too much but if its killing the population
which in a way definitly is , something should be done against it.
why does it have to be farming , is it really that hard to just cap and avoid the endless drama were having here.
since this whole "HK race" has started on SF
the whole server has been going nothing but downhill imo.
the more farming the more rage ppl get the more rage the more drama.
and when you look at the past it has shown us more then enough proof that this is happening.
but if thats the way people want to go then by all means go ahead.
im just trying to make the best out of it for as long as it lasts.
It has always been like this. The "HK race" and drama in LFG was always there. I am also pretty sure that is NOT the reason that the population is decreasing at the moment. The only reasons I can think of why the population is decreasing are the following:

1. Bugs (this is the most common reason why people leave the server, if something doesn't work properly they just leave, it's as simple as that). I have seen some people disband there 2k+ team in the past and they left because of a bugged game.

2. Lag & the well-known screenfreeze issue: Yes, a lot of people claim to have lag on this server. Just the Screenfreeze issue that a lot of people are having can be fkn annoying and I think some people quit because of that too.

3. Multiboxers: I think some people were against the fact that multiboxers were allowed here before and left because of that.

4. Wrath: Maybe a lot of players are waiting for the Wrath server to launch and are tired of playing BC all the time maybe they took a break or sumthing.

5. There is nothing to do here anymore except for constantly BG's or Arena and some people get bored of those really quick and just try to check out some other server or game which has more to offer them.

6. Last but not least. Summer is on his way. The weather is getting nicer each day :P could also make the population decrease.

I am voting AGAINST to make this bannable. I don't think this will solve anything since like 20% of the server is part of these premades it happens on both sides just like multiboxing. And I am pretty sure that there are no GM's available to monitor every bg.

If your suggesting to put an timer on WSG then please remove the bases from Arathi Basin because I hate to cap them and it's getting an problem for Horde since they got no brain to cap/defend them.

Yes, we rock WSG, we suck at AB so it's fair imo!


P.S. It's more AB then WSG in the bg rotations :O!
Mynce wrote:thats all really i just said ban cuz thats how i feel about but i also said ppl are free to give there own ideas.
Mmmhmmmm.. You want to make it a an bannable offense but yet you join those GY farms yourself =P?
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Firstaidkit wrote:Mmmhmmmm.. You want to make it a an bannable offense but yet you join those GY farms yourself =P?
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meh srsly


what's so intresting in farming graveyard? that's not even fun
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Firstaidkit wrote:
Mynce wrote:maybe it is asking too much but if its killing the population
which in a way definitly is , something should be done against it.
why does it have to be farming , is it really that hard to just cap and avoid the endless drama were having here.
since this whole "HK race" has started on SF
the whole server has been going nothing but downhill imo.
the more farming the more rage ppl get the more rage the more drama.
and when you look at the past it has shown us more then enough proof that this is happening.
but if thats the way people want to go then by all means go ahead.
im just trying to make the best out of it for as long as it lasts.
It has always been like this. The "HK race" and drama in LFG was always there. I am also pretty sure that is NOT the reason that the population is decreasing at the moment. The only reasons I can think of why the population is decreasing are the following:

1. Bugs (this is the most common reason why people leave the server, if something doesn't work properly they just leave, it's as simple as that). I have seen some people disband there 2k+ team in the past and they left because of a bugged game.

2. Lag & the well-known screenfreeze issue: Yes, a lot of people claim to have lag on this server. Just the Screenfreeze issue that a lot of people are having can be fkn annoying and I think some people quit because of that too.

3. Multiboxers: I think some people were against the fact that multiboxers were allowed here before and left because of that.

4. Wrath: Maybe a lot of players are waiting for the Wrath server to launch and are tired of playing BC all the time maybe they took a break or sumthing.

5. There is nothing to do here anymore except for constantly BG's or Arena and some people get bored of those really quick and just try to check out some other server or game which has more to offer them.

6. Last but not least. Summer is on his way. The weather is getting nicer each day :P could also make the population decrease.

I am voting AGAINST to make this bannable. I don't think this will solve anything since like 20% of the server is part of these premades it happens on both sides just like multiboxing. And I am pretty sure that there are no GM's available to monitor every bg.

If your suggesting to put an timer on WSG then please remove the bases from Arathi Basin because I hate to cap them and it's getting an problem for Horde since they got no brain to cap/defend them.

Yes, we rock WSG, we suck at AB so it's fair imo!


P.S. It's more AB then WSG in the bg rotations :O!
Mynce wrote:thats all really i just said ban cuz thats how i feel about but i also said ppl are free to give there own ideas.
Mmmhmmmm.. You want to make it a an bannable offense but yet you join those GY farms yourself =P?
yes i never liked the GY farming.
its time consuming and mostly useless
if we capped ever flag fast as possible in wSG
i would have conqeurer by now
Oh BTW,didnt you also claimed that the farming itself is rather boring.

Firstaidkit wrote:It has always been like this. The "HK race" and drama in LFG was always there. I am also pretty sure that is NOT the reason that the population is decreasing at the moment
im sorry but no it wasnt,
you had decent to good ZA raids and SWvault runs
SM was a challenge but thats only good cuz it dropped swp gear
which was really hard to get.
there was no hardcore premade pvp guilds and stuff
barely as much GY farming as it is now.

no offense but since 2 main players , (you & ezatt) made guilds things went
decreasing. im not saying your the cause but you were part of a growing issue at that time.

Firaidkit wrote:If your suggesting to put an timer on WSG then please remove the bases from Arathi Basin because I hate to cap them and it's getting an problem for Horde since they got no brain to cap/defend them.

Yes, we rock WSG, we suck at AB so it's fair imo!
thats kinda a ridiculous comparison
in noway that this is fair. AB ends automaticly at a certain point because of the requiered amount of points

in WSG however if 1 person holds the other factions flag the BG can go on endlessly.
which happens alot.
and no horde does not rock in WSG only your premades are doing this.
infact horde gets camped just as much as alliance.
thats why its such a hassle.
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Firstaidkit wrote:If your suggesting to put an timer on WSG then please remove the bases from Arathi Basin because I hate to cap them and it's getting an problem for Horde since they got no brain to cap/defend them.
How can you even compare the resources in Arathi Basin and a Time limit in WSG? there was a reason WoTLK had a timer in WSG and if you remove the bases in AB how can you end it?

Just because your zerg-train can't play objective? I get it that everyone want HK's but if you think about it.. you hold a base in AB people will run and try to cap it and if you defend it well BOOM! HK's!
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Wacco wrote:I get it that everyone want HK's but if you think about it..
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Add timer to WSG, everything fixed. There will still be GY camping, but for a lot less of time because they can't turtle the flag while farming, and even if they do the game will end.

and lol@ the "server is dying because of this"


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