make stars tears free

[Joshyo]

seriously, having to grind for this is pointless... stars tears are a caster essential. sure, it doesn't take very long to get them... but even on retail you don't need honor for them, it doesn't make sense to have to do battlegrounds for something you use in arena

[Henhouse]

but even on retail you don't need honor for them,

Stop right there, yes you do need honor to buy them, that's exactly why we added it to there in the first place. Honor should be x5 on Smolderforge anyway.

So no, we're not going to remove this to make you happy, there's a very good reason we added the price -- people were abusively using them every second of arena so we decided to add a price like on retail to stop that, it works very well.

http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32453

[Rakitheriom]

I still think we should put a limit or something on them.

[Joshyo]

putting a limit on them is ridiculous, how do you expect casters to compete?

if you dont know, almost every shadow priest spell costs 450-600 mana, rounding that to 500 per spell you can get 18 spells off before you go oom (unless you stack int you'll have 9k mana more or less), plus shadow fiend which will give you another 8 spells. shadow priests have no way to get their mana back after shadow fiend, which is a 5 minute cooldown

if you made all s2/t5 free, enchants free, gems free... and you made this server around arena (i think? if you didn't that's what it has become) why wont you just give us this? the only class that has mana that can play without this is maybe a hunter, because most people have s2 we have even less mana.

im not saying its hard to get stars tears but it really is completely game breaking if a caster doesn't have them

[Henhouse]

putting a limit on them is ridiculous, how do you expect casters to compete?

if you dont know, almost every shadow priest spell costs 450-600 mana, rounding that to 500 per spell you can get 18 spells off before you go oom (unless you stack int you'll have 9k mana more or less), plus shadow fiend which will give you another 8 spells. shadow priests have no way to get their mana back after shadow fiend, which is a 5 minute cooldown

if you made all s2/t5 free, enchants free, gems free... and you made this server around arena (i think? if you didn't that's what it has become) why wont you just give us this? the only class that has mana that can play without this is maybe a hunter, because most people have s2 we have even less mana.

im not saying its hard to get stars tears but it really is completely game breaking if a caster doesn't have them

Then do a battle ground or Hyjal when it's opened again. Also gear has nothing to do with this, if you want I can remove all the drinks, potions, and stones. Then you'll just be begging for them back.

[Joshyo]

lol

worse gear = less mana
s2/t5 = 9k mana
t6/sunwell = 10k mana

battlegrounds are hard to queue for, there are almost always 10/15 players in a game depending on the battleground and you have to be one of the 10/15 right off the bat

and otherwise theres no world pvp atm so


i realize you dont like me, but this is just a suggestion for the starters. im not making this post out of laziness, i have enough honor to last me until i quit WoW

but when i started i had left from a more... eh.. popular server to join this one because there are less bugs

so i did arena with a friend without the drinks and we sucked ass, i tried queueing for a battleground and stayed in queue for a few hours and didnt get one until the next day
its impossible to play a team that isnt double dps without drinks unless you conveniently fight double dps all the time

[Wutzke]

Well first off id like to say drinking in arena is plain stupid i think there should be now drinking just one straight up fight no running away like pussy's just to drink up it would be way more strategic that way. And most of all you wouldn't have 30 minute long matches. I myself a resto shaman nearly never has to drink because i can keep my mana the same thro any team that may not be so for other mana using classes. And if you got good enough you could do that with any class. just takes practice.
(thats without the water shield bug btw)

Seriously grow the hell up quit crying and l2p!
VOTE HENHOUSE FOR PRES!

[Crestfallen]

Watch a few arena movies and u'l understand that converting mana and drinking in arena is not "pussy",you've prolly been facing scrubs with no PvP trinkets and full PvE gear if you think drinking is hardly needed in arena.

[Joshyo]

if you dont know, almost every shadow priest spell costs 450-600 mana, rounding that to 500 per spell you can get 18 spells off before you go oom plus shadow fiend which will give you another 8 spells. shadow priests have no way to get their mana back after shadow fiend, which is a 5 minute cooldown

dont lecture me how to play. what do you want me to do... cast shadow word: pain and wand the rest of the match? no, that isn't how this game works and this isn't how my class works. the fact is arena revolves around drinks and long matches at the same time, because in reality the good matches are long

you just dont fight the right opponents, if you fought a good dps/healer team vs dps/healer team you will drink or lose. your choice, if you choose to lose it doesn't matter to me

you dont understand how this game works. people in high rated arena dont play to be fair, they play to win

[Henhouse]

Topic closed, our answer was final, there was no need for a debate on the matter.