A few suggestions!

[Veselin92]

Hey! As all of you can see server is slowly going down :X low population and everyday I see less people and this is making me sad :X So I will give a few suggestion, you are free to comment for yourself or to give more suggestions =)
First of all give people some stimul to play out for! For example make S4 avaliable for non-donor people, make every part to cost like 50-60K Honor - it will be hard to obtain full gear and people will farm it!
Script SWP fully - I believe this will increase population of server greatly! You can set bosses to drop like 3 items per boss, so getting items will be hardly in 25 man raid :O
Improove vote system - add more pets, mounts - something interesting! There is nothing to vote for...
Script Anzu - lelel there are a lot players who want to farm it!
Make some new events - Stairs or Lastmanalive or do something new, ppl are bored...

[Balls]

First of all give people some stimul to play out for! For example make S4 avaliable for non-donor people, make every part to cost like 50-60K Honor - it will be hard to obtain full gear and people will farm it!

It's already obtainable through arena. For reasonable ratings. Easy enough, if you're not an arena player then you have no business getting the high end arena gear anyway.

Script SWP fully - I believe this will increase population of server greatly! You can set bosses to drop like 3 items per boss, so getting items will be hardly in 25 man raid :O

This wouldn't make a difference. Do you know the state of PvE on Smolderforge? And more generally speaking, on funservers? You won't find 25 people to do a proper T5 run, while outgearing the place, and T5 is super nerfed content in this patch.

How would you imagine getting 25 people to do SWP, and more importantly, to know what the hell to do? As sad as it is, SWP is literally too hard for Smolderforge playerbase to ever realistically clear as it is, not to mention being hindered by the funserver mentality people have here. Raiding doesn't happen because people come and go and have 0 investment in their character and through that, no incentive to show up or perform up to standard.

Improove vote system - add more pets, mounts - something interesting! There is nothing to vote for...
Script Anzu - lelel there are a lot players who want to farm it!
Make some new events - Stairs or Lastmanalive or do something new, ppl are bored...

I'd like to see more stuff in vote shop, but the problem is that the number of cosmetic items in TBC is still very limited compared to other expansions. Dunno about events. Stairs are boring.

[Veselin92]

In my oppinion I would say that 1 item requires 2000 personal and team rating and like 1800-2000 points - its kinda imposible to achieve 2000 rating first, cuz there are only 3 teams playing arena... and how much points can you get per 3 days? like 300-500? so 12 days for 1 item? ye, it is totally fair! Donate and get the best gear insta...
Second - I find a lot of people who want to raid something and fill their time with BGs, so yes - if there is SWP a lot of player will play, and believe me if it works the way it shoud there will be enought people for swp. People can listen and can lern, dont underestimate them!
You may be right about heving just a few cosmetic items in this expansion, but still there are - so add them in vote shop...

[Balls]

In my oppinion I would say that 1 item requires 2000 personal and team rating and like 1800-2000 points - its kinda imposible to achieve 2000 rating first, cuz there are only 3 teams playing arena... and how much points can you get per 3 days? like 300-500? so 12 days for 1 item? ye, it is totally fair! Donate and get the best gear insta...

That's how it used to be. You didn't get full gear in a couple of flushes. It's a funserver with pay2win characteristics and you'll just have to live with that.

Second - I find a lot of people who want to raid something and fill their time with BGs, so yes - if there is SWP a lot of player will play, and believe me if it works the way it shoud there will be enought people for swp. People can listen and can lern, dont underestimate them!

I underestimate people until I'm proven wrong and because I have firsthand experience of dealing with retards who 'want to raid' but don't know what they're doing, are unwilling and / or unable to listen to and follow very simple instructions. And talking about SWP shouldn't be relevant until people have at least done a few successful clears of Hyjal and BT. To this day, no one has killed Illidan on this server. I also think you are underestimating the difficulty of SWP and the amount of effort you need to put in to actually go anywhere.

ps: if you really want to raid there are other options - if you pull the card that you don't want to level, then you don't really deserve to see the end-game anyway.
pps: if you want to jump straight into the last tier of raiding, go play one of the millions of shitty ICC simulators that are out there

[Apuclevercow]

Anzu is scripted.

[Illkissu]

I have firsthand experience of dealing with retards who 'want to raid' but don't know what they're doing, are unwilling and / or unable to listen to and follow very simple instructions

Lead 4 guilds (Tsunami not included) here through SSC,Gruul, Magtheridon's Lair,TK (Only once done Keal, cause we cant target him now),BT upto Bloodboil and once to Illidan. And yes in almost all them I had to pug about 8-10 people. I guess you're a bad leader? Idk w/e.

And talking about SWP shouldn't be relevant until people have at least done a few successful clears of Hyjal and BT. To this day, no one has killed Illidan on this server.

Yeah well no one is gonna do a 3 hour BT run only to just get 8-12 BoJ (which is the only thing that is worth here for non-donors atleast) while there's SC around, so stop mentioning this retarded point cause its quite obvious why no one wants to raid here. :)

Tbh with most of the the swp gear gone, I don't see any reason why SWP should be even reopened. And I'd like to say PvE is not going to work AT ALL unless you get rid of all the t5, t6 gear vendors but lets face it, that's never gonna happen! xD

[Balls]

Nerfed content. Outgearing content. Guess you're a fucking retard, but whatever.

[Illkissu]

Nerfed content. Outgearing content. Guess you're a fucking retard, but whatever.

[Balls]

Literally all of those are PuG-able on any other server. Gruul is doable with 15 or less people even if you're T5~ geared or worse. Magtheridon has not been relevant ever since they nerfed him completely. Polish people sort that stuff out in PuGs. There's no reason you wouldn't be able to do that on here, too. Mentioning it is arbitrary.
Anything in BT below Mother (here it's not a challenge, due to easily available gear that you can counter debuffs and high tank burst damage with, not to mention SR)
Council didn't even work 100% on SF last it was done. I was in all the BT raids that this server had.
Bloodboil is not a challenge or worth mentioning here because he was supposed to be healer gear check. Which it isn't, obviously.

Oh and, loot isn't the main incentive in raiding. Getting to clear content is, and that's where the general mentality, if nowhere else, fails. The long term commitment is nonexistent, and that's why all of the guilds on SF have died in a fairly short period of time as well, so if you're talking to me about running a guild... please.

[Illkissu]

Literally all of those are PuG-able on any other server

We aren't talking about 'any other server'. SF and its community is unique. You can't even pug a ZA here at times.

Anything in BT below Mother (here it's not a challenge, due to easily available gear that you can counter debuffs and high tank burst damage

Bloodboil is not a challenge or worth mentioning here because he was supposed to be healer gear check. Which it isn't, obviously.

Again you are missing the point. The people at SF aren't that capable of rocketing through BT as you claim. Most of the people that come here are either new or from other expansions, rarely do we get people who actually cleared BC content at retail or PS.

Oh and, loot isn't the main incentive in raiding. Getting to clear content is

The fun of getting gear has long taken the place of the fun of actual playing the game. Gear is as important as getting to clear the content. Gear is both a tool to help further and progress in content and as a reward for tackling challenges and advancement in gear is a big motivator, for sure. I don't honestly think that people would just waste time just to clear raids in end-game gear. Which should be easy but like I mentioned above the reason people fail a lot is because most of them are new to TBC. Either way fun is subjective and varies from person to person. So I don't wish to argue about this with you.

I was in all the BT raids that this server had

I'm curious, what character were you on? I'm guessing you were on CPP BT raid and only that.

so if you're talking to me about running a guild... please.

And if any GM could lock this thread, would be great. I'm done here anyway. ^_^