Weekly Raid boss quest.

[Abwyz]

Cheers Henhouse for adding daily heroic feature.
However I have to say that rewards are not satisfying enough.

Proposed changes:
2 Badges -> 5 Badges
2k Honor -> 5k Honor
Sunmote & Heart of the Darkness & Fel Armanent & Arcane Dust all of them.

Daily heroic can be done only once a day so in my opinion quest reward should feel more exceptionally.

[Bucovsky]

Cheers Henhouse for adding daily heroic feature.
However I have to say that rewards are not satisfying enough.

Proposed changes:
2 Badges -> 5 Badges
2k Honor -> 5k Honor
Sunmote & Heart of the Darkness & Fel Armanent & Arcane Dust all of them.

Daily heroic can be done only once a day so in my opinion quest reward should feel more exceptionally.

They clearly want players to get everything in a few days so there's nothing to do :o

[Abwyz]

Cheers Henhouse for adding daily heroic feature.
However I have to say that rewards are not satisfying enough.

Proposed changes:
2 Badges -> 5 Badges
2k Honor -> 5k Honor
Sunmote & Heart of the Darkness & Fel Armanent & Arcane Dust all of them.

Daily heroic can be done only once a day so in my opinion quest reward should feel more exceptionally.

They clearly want players to get everything in a few days so there's nothing to do :o

How much honor do You get for bringing in 10 BG marks? 4k if I remember correctly. It is possible to collect 10 marks in 40 minutes. Some heroics take more than 1 hour to clear so I think this amount of honor isn't too much. Also as I said this quest can only be done once a day.

[Apuclevercow]

HCs are easily doable. I mean, a (non-retarded) full T5 team will be able to do everything, in less than 1 hour.
On the other side you'll usually be able to do 2 BGs (instant queues are just a dream), if you're lucky, on the meantime. 2 BGs can represent 6 marks so, something like the 2 badges and the 2k honor of the PvE quest.
However, if we say that the probability of winning a BG is equivalent between factions, you have only 1/4 chances to get your 2 wins, like you have 1/4 chances to get 2 loses which is only 2 marks : it represents 800 honor points and almost 1 BoJ.

Neruur's rewards are fine, that PvE owl isn't ripping you off. Smolderforge is a PvP server, with a very limited PvE part. Therefore these rewards are clearly legit.

[Balls]

I think that heroic numbers should be adjusted a bit because of the gear inflation on the server. T5 starter gear is already outgearing them by a bunch and T6/SWP just makes it retardedly boring. Tuning them a bit higher up would make more sense.

[Hardlight]

I think the price is just right, but the ability to obtain rewards is frustrating. But before a I carry on, lets review somethings on this server.

With any PVP method of obtaining IG currency - failure remains rewarded. Lose a BG? get a mark. Lose 10 areana games? Still get points. By all means, it's not fast losing, but players are aware that the time invested in those activities are per say "more efficient" (unless you got a WSG with 5 healers on both sides).

Thing is with PVE - failure isn't rewarded. So players who have bad experiences remain distant or put PVE server based objectives aside. So what can we do?

These are just ideas being hurled out merely for brain storming:

1) We provide small rewards inside the instance before each boss
-players are still rewarded for reaching a certain point in each instance
-thus - failure is slightly rewarded (5 fragments for example)

2) Add an option to convert the boss into the normal version of the boss, and remove BOJ reward
- players are able to get an easier boss, at the cost of not being rewarded the BOJ.
- bosses being downed still contribute to the quest
- *optional*, all bosses from there on out are striped of BOJ bonus reward..but the quest still goes through (as it is considered not completing the instance fully on heroic)
- this makes raiding easier and more laxed - and players are able to understand the jist of the instance at an easier difficulty

iunno. Its that - OR we self educate ourselves and understand that we are the community and we drive what happens on the server - not the rewards.

[Apuclevercow]

Rewards are fine, really. The amount of BoJs we get from PvE is already higher than what we get from PvP, even if we fail at it : 2 loss on BGs don't represent 1 BoJ (which is the reward for the kill of ONLY one boss).
We should look more for Balls' idea.
I imagine this as an harder daily instance which is linked to the daily quest at the mall and then, ppl would be able to argue for the raise of rewards but for now it's just bullshit.

[Hartun]

please name the heroics that need 1+hrs to clear

[Voodoomaniac]

[/quote]
They clearly want players to get everything in a few days so there's nothing to do :o[/quote]
How much honor do You get for bringing in 10 BG marks? 4k if I remember correctly. It is possible to collect 10 marks in 40 minutes. Some heroics take more than 1 hour to clear so I think this amount of honor isn't too much. Also as I said this quest can only be done once a day.[/quote]

If you don't like the rewards one could always remove the NPCs...
While this is not retail-TBC, I think giving honor for doing PvE is a major step on its own. Be happy you even get honor for PvE work.

[Hartun]

They clearly want players to get everything in a few days so there's nothing to do :o[/quote]
How much honor do You get for bringing in 10 BG marks? 4k if I remember correctly. It is possible to collect 10 marks in 40 minutes. Some heroics take more than 1 hour to clear so I think this amount of honor isn't too much. Also as I said this quest can only be done once a day.[/quote]

If you don't like the rewards one could always remove the NPCs...
While this is not retail-TBC, I think giving honor for doing PvE is a major step on its own. Be happy you even get honor for PvE work.[/quote]
Agreed and im not happy about the new npc's that sell those items, ppl played money for them as far as i know