Lets discuss this once and for all

[Osiriis]

I think that there should be some change around haste. Its just ruining the server, theres atleast 2 haste stackers in every bg who only spam 1 skill, doing way to much dmg and destroying all the fun.
I dont know if it can be changed in any other way then removing the gear, which obviously wont happen.

Also if Resil works, why do i get 5.5k crits full resil capped? doesnt seem legit

TY TY

[Swackx]

Xaru.. you know, it's basically a fact that some classes/specs just weren't top tier in tbc and struggled against the better ones.. however, not every class should turn into a fuckin pom pyro mage and that's exactly what happens to any caster or especially shockadin with swp gear.
I mean they are bursty even without max pve gear, or just some parts of t6 or whatsoever..

[Lightup]

I think that there should be some change around haste. Its just ruining the server, theres atleast 2 haste stackers in every bg who only spam 1 skill, doing way to much dmg and destroying all the fun.
I dont know if it can be changed in any other way then removing the gear, which obviously wont happen.

Also if Resil works, why do i get 5.5k crits full resil capped? doesnt seem legit

Probably because when you played on retail TBC you didn't have people wearing full swp gear/t6.

Well, that just proves the point that something is terribly wrong here imo... You cant convince me in any way that getting 5k crits on capped resi is something that should happen.

[Xaru]

I think that there should be some change around haste. Its just ruining the server, theres atleast 2 haste stackers in every bg who only spam 1 skill, doing way to much dmg and destroying all the fun.
I dont know if it can be changed in any other way then removing the gear, which obviously wont happen.

Also if Resil works, why do i get 5.5k crits full resil capped? doesnt seem legit

Probably because when you played on retail TBC you didn't have people wearing full swp gear/t6.

Well, that just proves the point that something is terribly wrong here imo... You cant convince me in any way that getting 5k crits on capped resi is something that should happen.

No it doesn't, it's part of every private server. If you want something that isn't "wrong" then go play on a levelling progression server! 2.4.3 is what it is! People had T6 gear in 2.4.3, you could pug BT and SWP back then. 5k is nothing compared to what warlocks can hit you with, even with t5 gear.

The reason why I'm upset is that they've already removed SWP gear from us before when they made it cost honor/badges, altering it further is just toying with people. To prove that I'm not just saying this because I'm a shockadin I'll spec ret full pvp and won't respec back to shockadin again just to prove that it has more to do with the fact that I won't be as "bursty". I'm worried about how it will affect pvp, certain classes benefit more from resilience than others. And the fact that you whingers always get your way is also annoying.

[Firstaidkit]

Resilience works.

ur a bg holic :) going for 250k hk which is cool and respectable but I dont think ive ever seen u in arena (prolly done it in the past) so maybe i dont think u run into super warriors very often (at least recently)

I don't know what is up I'm not a developer here but I know resilience works as intended because I have tested it several times with the old developer Darkgroom. And every test result was the same that it works as intended.

[Exsurgo]

I think that there should be some change around haste. Its just ruining the server, theres atleast 2 haste stackers in every bg who only spam 1 skill, doing way to much dmg and destroying all the fun.
I dont know if it can be changed in any other way then removing the gear, which obviously wont happen.

Also if Resil works, why do i get 5.5k crits full resil capped? doesnt seem legit

Its not resilience. It is melee stacking > 2000 armor penetration in T6.5. It is casters pushing past 1600 spell power with full T6.5 and pots/flasks. The truth is that damage just scales far better than resilience in this patch with this gear.

[Robotking]

you guys are offtopic.

this thread is about premades and honor cap.

pve gear is not the problem. everyone can get sw gear for free now. glass cannons are easy to kill.

[Xaru]

you guys are offtopic.

this thread is about premades and honor cap.

pve gear is not the problem. everyone can get sw gear for free now. glass cannons are easy to kill.

Thank you so much.

We're all in agreement that HK should be capped once again. Close thread now?

Nobody interested in my knife obsession? :c



Just look at how sexy that is!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_I61ThtVG8

[Outskilled]

Clear all SWP items from players > add to a vender ( Requires #### Rating To equip ) AT Style

Implement the resil 8% change ( like pvp power in MOP )
Implement insert name here
Implement insert name here
Implement insert name here

The list is countless. At no point of me playing retail did I encounter any of these in an Arena or BG, Note.

Pve BIS SWP Shockadin using Mail Gear
Pve BIS Destro Sacrifice Lock
Pve BIS Pom Pyro mage
Pve BIS Fire Mage
Pve BIS Rogue
Pve BIS Ele Shaman Using Cloth gear

You see the Pattern?

PvP used to be fun before Flavor of the Month swept across like a plague. Can't step in an arena without seeing a Mage using only "2" parts of S4, or them retarded videos Xaru puts on youtube of him two Shotting people, armory that dwarf priest- 420 Resilience, Still getting two shot.

Pve gear is just a joke and it breaks the game, Your a delinquent to think the player base is going anywhere but down when a fresh player can't even get the enjoyment out of a battleground or arena match because if you don't donate, you don't win. Look at it from their perspective, It's not very nostalgic for fun by any means. I know funds are needed to keep the server alive but what are you keeping alive, A cancer that is slowly killing your server. - rantover

[Lightup]

Clear all SWP items from players > add to a vender ( Requires #### Rating To equip ) AT Style

Implement the resil 8% change ( like pvp power in MOP )
Implement insert name here
Implement insert name here
Implement insert name here

The list is countless. At no point of me playing retail did I encounter any of these in an Arena or BG, Note.

Pve BIS SWP Shockadin using Mail Gear
Pve BIS Destro Sacrifice Lock
Pve BIS Pom Pyro mage
Pve BIS Fire Mage
Pve BIS Rogue
Pve BIS Ele Shaman Using Cloth gear

You see the Pattern?

PvP used to be fun before Flavor of the Month swept across like a plague. Can't step in an arena without seeing a Mage using only "2" parts of S4, or them retarded videos Xaru puts on youtube of him two Shotting people, armory that dwarf priest- 420 Resilience, Still getting two shot.

Pve gear is just a joke and it breaks the game, Your a delinquent to think the player base is going anywhere but down when a fresh player can't even get the enjoyment out of a battleground or arena match because if you don't donate, you don't win. Look at it from their perspective, It's not very nostalgic for fun by any means. I know funds are needed to keep the server alive but what are you keeping alive, A cancer that is slowly killing your server. - rantover

Completely signed.