Event schedule! READ THIS!

[maikal]

I think his events are fine. Even he is new at making events ;-p.

[Agarwen]

Sorry to see that you are so mad, but I did everything correct, its wasnt best of 2 sometimes and best of 1 sometimes, if you just had checked the bracket then there would be a problem..Maybe my events arent the best but its better then no events. If you dont think our events is good enough why are you even playing at the event, go pro instead and earn some money.

I'm just saying that I have little knowledge about tournaments. I want play events beacause its only way to play 3v3 anywhere which is the best bracket. If I could ill go other tournaments but there is no servers at all. All what we are trying to say is make next tournament better beacause last time was *facepalm*

[Twostepp]

Hey. I like your goal to bring people fun hostin some events, but the fact is 3x3 could bring fun only it challenged and well organized. You could ask every single team or player from 3x3 even last week. Most of them will say they dont enjoy it. Why?

1) Small amount of mutches. WoW is pretty RNG based game. 1 match is not enough. Its obviously. You should host not just double elemenation, it should be bo3 matches at bo5 final. So most of players just waste 2-3 hours of time to play 2-3 matches. One team even left... I played like 5-6 matches for 3 hours and get r2...

GM which host tournament(probably tou) said he've no time. Its ok but instead of do something bad, let somebody do it decent way.

2) Bad place. Nagrand location(with arena) isnt real arena. Arena frames addons(proximo glady etc) ouuta work there. i'm sure 99% players use it. So they feel rusty, and playing worse. Also, you can see tons of targets on arena(obververs) it also make you play worse. The point of any tournament to determine the best and allow every player to show best game.

And 3) Observers also dont enjoy it. Because its too much range from banch to arena, you cant actually see everything like on spectrate mode. You can see something happend, but dont understand what exactly happening at arena as observer.

So what we should change?

1) Most important. Dont lose time to summon ppl in nagrand, dont waste your time to open doors and staff. Just make participants do rated teams(rated 3x3 match could be observerd) and play with each other follow greed. After win loser team report lose via PM or skype and winner team should screen won if they need to proove.

So, gm wont lose time. He gonna only judge contentious issues and change greed. Spectrates gonna observer any match they want and cant affect it. If somebody want to make 3x3 rated team to "snipe" somebody, participants just report them and that team gonna be banned. I belive theres no reason to cr8 tons of chars or accounts to stop the tournament. It wont happend.

2) Change system of the tournament. You could calcualte number of teams which sign in before, and also you could ask some ppl in lfg at exactly moment of tournament start to make more teams. So last time, i blive, it was much obversers which wanted to play. So maybe we couldnt get 16 teams(i belive if tournament could be succsesful its real get 16) but we could get ast least 12. So however we do 4 groups with 3-4 teams inside each. Then those teams in groups fight wich each(every team should play vs every other one) for points. Like win 1 arena = 1 point, lose = 0 .

And 2 teams with biggest number of points after all matches will go to play-off. So everyone will have at least 3 bo3 matches. which means decent number of games for everyone. After that we could do playoff for 8 players. bo3 match, lose = goodbye.

This system helps avoid "good grid" for somebody, makes ppl show their skill and most important provide TONS of matches, its good for participants and obvservers.

It shouldnt get more then 3-4 hours of your time. Same as you waste last tournament, but it will be really decent tournament, not just something unplaynable. If you havnt this time, you can to find other judge for tournament. And mainly your actions only about ban some players who wanna stop the tournament, change grid after participants reports(if two teams say they won winner should bring screen) and judge contentious issues. Nothing more. Judge literally cant affect the tournament(not like it was last time, for some teams it was bo1 for some bo3 etc).

If you like it, but still got some qustion or cant understand it - i can help you. Only in organization moments cause i will play it(probably) and i belive player cant be a judge in a same time. I got huge expirence participate in tournaments, since, probably, yar 2009. So i know how to make it challenged and interesting for everyone.

To proove that i got tournament exp and know what i talking about ill post screenshot, this is my team won first 3x3 tournament on Arena-Tournament realm. year 2009(after that i also played3x3 tournaments more then 10 times).



Dont blame my UI it was 7 years ago (: now it looks like(also proove that i played last 3x3 even there)




I also ask everyone who agree with my points write it there, so maybe administartion gonna understand what we want. Thanks for reading.

This isnt arena-tourument server we dont have the man power to do that sort of event, if you're satisfied with what we are offering then don't play here smolderforge is not an arena-tourument server, so stop comparing...

I'm going to say we are going to start off with small 3v3 events, and then maybe in 6 month or something we could have a hugh 3v3 event.. But listen I have to learn how to hold 3v3 events first.. anyone that wants to help me, add me on discord - Twostepp

There will be waiting times in the 3v3 events, if I'm alone doing it.

[Xios]

@Judger Stop with those comments about me deleting some peoples messages, IF you or anyone else wish to know why I deleted it then you'll have to PM or email me.

@Twostepp I think what you are doing is great, I've always been a fan of events, I've hosted a lot of them myself so I'm glad to see someone else trying and enjoying it as much. Too bad I don't have the time any longer to host them myself. And since it was your first one I don't think you should apologize for anything, everything you hear is good feedback. All I can tell you is that just take your time, don't stress anything, you're the one that's setting the speed & limits. Don't want too many spectators? Then don't. People spamming you with messages? Disable it. Everything will come in time, and I bet you will learn it really fast. That's my advice.

[maikal]

So wise ^^, and so truely.

[pinklal]

This isnt arena-tourument server we dont have the man power to do that sort of event, if you're satisfied with what we are offering then don't play here smolderforge is not an arena-tourument server, so stop comparing...

Sure this is not arena-tournament. And to be honest your server could take this place, something like pvp directed tbc realm, and get 2-3 times more online then atm. But its your way and im deal with it. Past is past, i dont waiting same challenged place as old at anymore.


What do you mean as "man power"? Do you really read what did i wrote in my last post? It doesnt take any special actions from you. It doesnt take more time then you waste for last 3x3. You just controle everything goes fine and sometimes help. Its just about better ogranization. Its so simple to say "if you dont like it - dont play" but this way is degradation. You if you doin something, you have to tryin do it better. Always. Its not about tournament or WoW, its about everything. I dont blame you or something. Just give you an advise.

As i said, if you dont know how to host decent 3x3 tournament, If you havent "man power" or simply time for it, let somebody do it for you, let somebody learn you. Let somebody who know how to do it correct host it.

I could do it once, ill make grid, judge and ogranizate everything. Actually, I'm really like to play 3x3 and your "events" the only way to do it(because theres no other 2.4.3 server where i could do 3x3 atm) but i wont play next one to learn you, because obviously player cant be host for tournament(like it was last time with warcrime).

I'm pretty sure this way better to players and observers(do you host it for them, or for youself?). So let me help you next time at 25 June. We'll contact and ill explain what im doin and why im doin it. You will just watch it and learn. Maybe i gonna ask you to freeze or ban some ppl who tryin to stop tournament, etc. So if we do that together, you will learn and be able to host next 3x3 on decent lvl without any help.

About tournament size. As i said its not about big or little. Its about actual number of players who want to play it at the moment. If it really only 8 teams, better do it like you do last time but bo3 instead of bo1. But if it 12 teams or more - groups and play-off way better.

And look, you host enough events for casual players. I've no clue about it so do you like you want.

But also think about decent and top pvp players. Most ppl like to watch their fights. So let us get at least ONE decent 3x3 even pls.

[Twostepp]

@Judger Stop with those comments about me deleting some peoples messages, IF you or anyone else wish to know why I deleted it then you'll have to PM or email me.

@Twostepp I think what you are doing is great, I've always been a fan of events, I've hosted a lot of them myself so I'm glad to see someone else trying and enjoying it as much. Too bad I don't have the time any longer to host them myself. And since it was your first one I don't think you should apologize for anything, everything you hear is good feedback. All I can tell you is that just take your time, don't stress anything, you're the one that's setting the speed & limits. Don't want too many spectators? Then don't. People spamming you with messages? Disable it. Everything will come in time, and I bet you will learn it really fast. That's my advice.

Thanks for the mind changer <3

[pastbound]

Hello there my name is Twostepp, and some of you know that I'm sort of interested in bringing events alive again on Smolderforge! So I thought I do a schedule with all the events that are coming up.

[h]EVENT GOT CLOSED June 18 08:00pm SERVER TIME! - 5x1 Event Message me or Warcrime on Discord or ingame, or post a comment here! We are looking for 4 guilds that wants to join 5 players from each guild. Rules no class stacking, no sl sl locks and no healers! (Prizes will be ingame stuff! Honor,Badge of Justice or Transmog tokens)

[h]June 21 - 09:00pm SERVER TIME! - Bring rare item[/h]I will tell you to get an item, like Gorilla Fang for example and the first one that trades me the item will win 5 Badges of Justice!

[h]June 23 - 09:00pm SERVER TIME! - Best looking transmog![/h]We will gather at a certain location and the one with the best transmog will win UNLIMITED TRANSMOG DONATION CODE!, simple thing not really event but you atleast got some time to make your transmog as dope as possible!

[h]June 25 08:00pm SERVER TIME! - 3v3![/h]So gather your team and be ready! 12 or 8 TEAMS If you have a a team message me or warcrime, and I'll add you directly, send it on DISCORD OR INGAME or post a comment below, with the exact character name that you will be playing and no changing!(Prizes will be donations codes and ingame stuff. Honor,Badge of Justice or Transmog tokens)

[h]1 July 08:00pm SERVER TIME! 2v2![/h]So gather your team and be ready! 8 TEAMS, Single Elimination If you have a a team message me or warcrime, and I'll add you directly, send it on DISCORD OR INGAME or post a comment below, with the exact character name that you will be playing and no changing!(Prizes will be donations codes and ingame stuff. Honor,Badge of Justice or Transmog tokens)

This is the events for now! Hope to see you there!

Glad you're doing events with such frequency. You're doing well man. I'm not opposed to any of these, of course, however I do have an idea for an event that has been brewing in my head, if you'll indulge me. Consider it if you think it's a good idea or not. Personally, I think it would be a blast.

We could do 5, 5-man free for all's in Gurubashi, last man standing wins. 5 matches, 5 people in each match. I'll leave you to decide what classes/specs would be allowed in this event. After the 5 initial matches; each victor from each match would then be placed in the 6th and final match where the winners of those 5 matches would battle it out to determine the champion. The last man standing at the end of the Battle of the Victors wins the grand prize.

[Xios]

Unfortunately, Smolderforge community, Twostepp resigned from the staff earlier today so he won't be hosting his events, we are very sorry.

I'll try to host some more events in his honor.

Yours, Xios.