Remove some Transmog items off donate

[Peekaboo]

It's not the quality of the server, it's your opinion.
But you can't be blamed to grow bored of a game which is ancient these days, regardless if you get swarmed in BGs or wipe on trash. Just don't blame it on someone else, who offers nearly everything for free.

Mangos is a bad term to use btw. this stuff is cluttered with useless stuff, and bugs which don't make any sense. Trinity (well Oregon actually) was sort of private, the new switch is even more private (which comes at a price, olol). =P

[Abwyz]

Since I was an officer of both EC and CPPVE guilds I will add my 2 cents to this off-topic discussion about pve on Smolderforge and why it is dead:

1. No rewards.
What's the problem? Well, let's be honest, majority of people raid for gear or other kind of unique reward. On Smolderforge, getting bis pve gear isn't any big deal, since even Ethiopian kid could afford 5$ donate. No, I don't mean it is bad, I actually like this low donate price, but if you give gear for almost free then (assuming you want pve to exist on your server) you should add other rewards like mounts, titles or unique pets to bosses. On example why not add title Champion of the Naaru for killing Lady Vashj and Hand of A'dal for killing Kaelthas or adding Raven Lord mount with a 100% drop chance to Archimonde drop table and Ashes of A'lar to Illidan loot?

2. Not enough people.
There are some people that actually would like to raid for fun, like me, but there aren't too many of them and getting full 25 man raid is very hard to achieve. What is more, even if we get full raid of competent people, vast part of them doesn't understand that raiding = wiping and after few boss attempts (boss that won't give you anything, but satisfaction for killing him) they simply go offline. And we come back to point one again. Since boss doesn't offer you anything many people don't want to wipe on him let's say 10 times just for fun.

So, what's the solution?
There are many possible solutions to fix pve on Smolderforge, but the most important step is that Henhouse must ask himself if he wants to have pve on his server. I already stated above one idea of how to make killing harder and more time consuming bosses attractive even to bis geared people, so I won't repeat myself, but there are other ways as well.

[Balls]

Yes, it is really hard to get a solid group going as there is zero motivation for them to stick around, especially if there are going to be wipes on some encounters. It's largely a population issue that comes with a fun server I suppose, but once every blue moon you might end up having a solid raid, like we did with CPPVE.

The biggest concern for me is that there are just no players of this kind on the server anymore. PvE has been ignored for too long, but I understand that PvP will have priority over it.

[Exsurgo]

I think having pve specific titles is a very good idea.

[Terezi]

I think having pve specific titles is a very good idea.

I agree on the titles. Not sure on mounts, but the titles would be a nice bonus. One thing I noticed, well, a few actually:

1) One wipe rule. Seems you go through heck to fill up a team, but all you need is one wipe, and the raid breaks up. Can't tell you how often this happens with everything.

2) PvP gear/spec being used in PvE situations. They don't want to use PvE gear, they /ignore you if you tell them to spec pve, and will generally lose about ten years of maturity if you try to explain a boss fight to them.

3) Touched on already, zero motivation. This also splashes into a lot of the PvP we have as well. I've seen a steep incline of teams where the members die one time and immediately go offline or afk at the starting base trash talking their team for the remainder of the game.

Not sure how to counter those things, but that's what is sorely hurting us right now.

[Outskilled]

I think having pve specific titles is a very good idea.

/vouch

[Zapcraclepop]

I think having pve specific titles is a very good idea.

/vouch

Why give PvE titles to people who can't clear kara in swp gear? Isn't that an Oxymoron?

[Cube]

Why give PvE titles to people who can't clear kara in swp gear? Isn't that an Oxymoron?

Why do you ask random shit?

[Gandraman]

Why give PvE titles to people who can't clear kara in swp gear? Isn't that an Oxymoron?

Why do you ask random shit?

bump

[Zapcraclepop]

Why give PvE titles to people who can't clear kara in swp gear? Isn't that an Oxymoron?

Why do you ask random shit?

Why do you even post when you don't even play? It's related to the topic, it's not just some random unrelated question. So fuck off, Cube. :3 Or are you still mad I refused to waste money on you for a Christmas present? Does it annoy you that I cba to give you anything? You didn't deserve anything, so that's what you got.

That, was a random fucking post. See the difference?