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Apoplyon, the Soul-Render BUGGED
Posted: 21 Jun 2013, 18:01
by domenico
hello,
look at the following screens.
Apoplyon, I think, it's bugged: the damage must be higher in Apoplyon, because of it has the same damage of brutal and +26 AP (100-126). I suppose that there are two possibilities:
1) it's bugged Apoplyon;
2) it's bugged the character window.
tell me, please, if I'm wrongs.
Thanks.
Re: Apoplyon, the Soul-Render BUGGED
Posted: 21 Jun 2013, 18:06
by domenico
Sorry for the images, but I think they are good enought to see the problem. I mean, Apoplyon MUST do more damage than Brutal, I think...
This error; I think, comes from the haste attribute...or not?
Greetings,
D.
Posted: 21 Jun 2013, 18:31
by Dntryme
From what I know, Apolyon has 3.40 speed and S4 2H weapons have 3.60.
Therefore S4 > Apolyon.
Re:
Posted: 21 Jun 2013, 18:47
by domenico
Dntryme wrote:From what I know, Apolyon has 3.40 speed and S4 2H weapons have 3.60.
Therefore S4 > Apolyon.
but haste doesn't change the maximum and minimum damage...only the DPS, if I am right.
so Apoplyon must do more damage than S4...or no?
thanks.
D.
Re: Apoplyon, the Soul-Render BUGGED
Posted: 21 Jun 2013, 18:49
by domenico
I mean, Apoplyon has 607 max dmg, and S4 2Haxe 606...the first has 3.4 and the second 3.6 speed...but...speed is speed...the dmg is another thing...so why Apoplyon does less max dmg than S4 2Haxe?
Posted: 21 Jun 2013, 19:07
by Dntryme
It's the speed, trust me.
Re: Apoplyon, the Soul-Render BUGGED
Posted: 21 Jun 2013, 19:28
by domenico
Ok...i have read a lot now...base attack is not "normalized", i find. only istant attack (and not all) are normalized (after patch 1.8).
source:
http://www.wowwiki.com/Normalization
source:
http://www.wowpedia.org/Normalization
please, can you tell me if am I right?
thanks.
D.
Re: Apoplyon, the Soul-Render BUGGED
Posted: 21 Jun 2013, 22:58
by Gregoriano
Dntryme wrote:It's the speed, trust me.
Apolyon: 1.05*(607+610*3.4/14)=~793
S4: 1.05*(606+584*3.6/14)=~794
I hope this math is clear :P
Normalization does nothing to displayed auto attack damage. Damage of an ability doing X% weapon damage can be normalized or not. I can explain this further if you want.
Re: Apoplyon, the Soul-Render BUGGED
Posted: 13 Jul 2013, 19:12
by Zapcraclepop
domenico wrote:I mean, Apoplyon has 607 max dmg, and S4 2Haxe 606...the first has 3.4 and the second 3.6 speed...but...speed is speed...the dmg is another thing...so why Apoplyon does less max dmg than S4 2Haxe?
DPS on weapons is found by an equation that calculates weapon damage and weapon speed. s4 is slower than SWP sword, and probably has more crit. while the other one hits for less, just swings faster. Another thing to consider, is the amount of AP strength brings for warriors. Due to this, you will notice a very slight improvement over the two swords (Gems playing most of the role in that slight improvement)