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Ive made some research and testing on the server and ive found bug with how the spell reflection detects the spells.

How it should work in patch 2.4.3:

Shaman starts to cast Lightningbolt
Mage starts to cast Frostbolt
Warrior uses Spell Reflection

Mage finishes cast and Frostbolt is mid air
Shaman finishes cast and Lightningbolt is mid air

Frostbolt hits Warrior first and gets reflected
Warrior looses Spell Reflection buff
Lightningbolt hits Warrior second and gets reflected

Other way to explain this:

MS = mage and shaman stands here
W = warrior stands here
- - - - = Spell flight path
F = Frostbolt
L = Lightningbolt


MS - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - W

MS - - F - - - - - - - - - - - - W

MS - - L - - - - - - - - F - - - W

Both Lightningbolt and Frostbolt gets reflected.


How it works on Smolderforge:

Mage starts to cast Frostbolt
Shaman starts to cast Lightningbolt
Warrior uses Spell Reflection

Mage finishes cast and Frostbolt is mid air
Warrior looses Spell Reflection buff
Shaman finishes cast and Lightningbolt is mid air

Frostbolt hits warrior and gets reflected
Lightningbolt hits warrior and doesen't get reflected


In theory:

If Frostbolt flight time from mage to warrior lasts 1sec, from

A - - - - - - - -to - - - - - - - B

takes 1sec, all spells cast in that 1sec window should get reflected.

Done some testing and theory stuff about this.
And this is somewhat big deal, for example, shatter combo from Frostmage, Frostbolt + icelance, only frostbolt gets reflected eventho icelance hits warrior before frostbolt does and ice lance goes thru, critting for ~2k dmg, OR Wrath + Moonfire from Druid, Wrath gets casted first, wrath is on air when moonfire gets casted, becouse moonfire is instant it hits warrior before wrath hits warrior therefore both of the spells should get reflected
or lightningbolt + shock, samething as wrath and moonfire, it makes a big differance

it's TBC, spell reflection has always had a slight trigger delay.

go watch swifty's video where he reflected +50 mage casts. was filmed in TBC, was not fixed until after TBC.

pretty sure, anyways.

That video is from s3 release, wich was older patch than 2.4.3, back on that patch spell reflection reflected all spells casted on the 4 sec duration

If you sit down while reflecting the buff will not go away after the first spell reflected,but it will stay on you and reflect all spells for the duration.

~instinxz

I have read comments on wowhead. And it seems you are right. Actually some year or two ago, when I was playing a mage here, it was possible to get a double reflect if the missile and instant cast landed somewhat at the same time. This was surprising to me(note: I have never played on retail).

Provided that reflect was used after the missile was fired then should an already flying missile get reflected or not? From what I read on wowhead, it shouldn't.

EDIT: Thanks to Deems I have found the video I was talking about below, and I was partially wrong (It seems I have never really payed attention to the causality when I was watching it years ago). I will explain and draw further conclucions in next post, after I fully watch and analyze this video: http://www.warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=95023

Gregoriano wrote:Problem is I have a conflicting memory of a TBC(they were S4 for sure) video of some asian pro.
It was a warrior vs pom-pyro mage duel. Mage casted instant pyro on warrior. When missile was already flying, warrior popped reflect. Pyro got reflected. Mage seeing that it got reflected, used ice block(also after the missile was reflected and obviously flying at him!) Both warrior and mage took no damage. I really need to find it now!

This is missleading, however I will keep it here for now.

@above

Gforce 3, the first mage duel.