Warrior Rage Generation

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Re: Warrior Rage Generation

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Shirudo wrote:
Imperium wrote:warriors are fine learn to play.

what did you not understand about that?
exactly, what do you lose against except maybe feral bear druids and mages?
warriors are still on top of the pvp game here if you have not noticed. if you havent noticed, you're dumb.
warriors rape everything here so even if the rage is bugged, oh fucking well. you want an OP class to become more OP? because warriors, as they are, are stupidly powerful.
this is tbc. warriors are fine.
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Re: Warrior Rage Generation

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Hmm Funny i has actually started to play warrior for the first time and i dont find that theres anything wrong with them except! That the dmg seems to be hugely OP at some moments and about the rage didn't notice anything there aswell seems to be just fine. Well atleast i dont have any problem with it maybe poeple just need to learn howe to NOT wasting it. On the other side i might be wrong as i said its my first time i play warrior.
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Re: Warrior Rage Generation

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Imperium wrote:
Shirudo wrote:
Imperium wrote:warriors are fine learn to play.

what did you not understand about that?
exactly, what do you lose against except maybe feral bear druids and mages?
warriors are still on top of the pvp game here if you have not noticed. if you havent noticed, you're dumb.
warriors rape everything here so even if the rage is bugged, oh fucking well. you want an OP class to become more OP? because warriors, as they are, are stupidly powerful.
this is tbc. warriors are fine.
learn
to
play
How are warriors fine when rage would be determined by gear and level?
I've tested this a few times and results were correct.

I went naked. Used a lvl 60 1h and I got 0-3 rage. 0-3!!
Wanna know when I actually got rage? When I fucking missed an attack.
THESE ARE ALL WHITE SWINGS.

I used the S2/S3/S4 1hander I got 4 rage out of that. even sometimes the S2 1h didnt give me rage at all.

At that point, I wondered if it was because I was naked. *equipped all my gear* still 0-3 rage with TF.
still 4 rage with the arena 1h's.

Rage mechanic = broken. Warrior's are only saved by charge-bloodrage-anger management-endless rage and maybe unbridled wrath.

Also, very ignorant of you to tell me that i have to learn to play. And look buddy, if I wanted to auto-attack my opponents. I would roll a fucking shaman or paladin... (what I ironicly did)
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Shirudo wrote: if I wanted to auto-attack my opponents. I would roll a fucking shaman or paladin... (what I ironicly did)
okay.

how many enhancement shamans do you see ranking in 2v2? or 3v3? ON TBC AT THIS TIME OR ANY TIME BEFORE*

how many paladins do you see? I only know of like two that have ever taken titles

now, how many warriors?

yeah. they seem to be doin just fine.
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Shirudo what are you hitting? the dummies are bugged and dont give you as much rage as you should get.
Imp enh shammies are fine as fuk on tbc, they just need to fix totems and toughness on SF. Pallies too... just less people play them on a decent level. Like hunters, most OP class in the game but there isn't anyone good.
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Re: Warrior Rage Generation

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ZatYo wrote:Shirudo what are you hitting? the dummies are bugged and dont give you as much rage as you should get.
Imp enh shammies are fine as fuk on tbc, they just need to fix totems and toughness on SF. Pallies too... just less people play them on a decent level. Like hunters, most OP class in the game but there isn't anyone good.
never said they weren't, except for totem pulse on drop and toughness; just saying how many enh shammies take gladiator compared to warriors?

but no I'm just saying, warriors are fine. kinda
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Re: Warrior Rage Generation

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Rage gain was changed to scale with ilvl of gear in wotlk. The reason was that rage gain was too high in BC, when you got higher STATS, which alone meant higher HITS/CRITS. It was so easy to up your damage by being in a raid group, and having every buff you can muster. While this wasnt an issue in arenas, there was still the fact that sometimes white damage was absurd to clothies, so you ended up with 20+ rage gain from one hit, at times.

If you get 10-15 rage from s2-s3 white hits its just about working as intended. Youre supposed to have to make decisions about what attack/s to use, and whether or not to use rage to CC/pummel. when you get over 20 rage from one hit, which is enough for a mortal strike, can use your time sitting on a target to gain a nice 40-60 rage over the time you have, then set them up for a kill. While that sounds like a good thing, theres no choices to make if you have rage for your MS debuff, your CC, and pummel. Theres no effort for skillcap there.

TBC had the unique advantage of having ways to focus on world pvp, arenas, bgs, and PVE, without having to sacrifice a whole lot in terms of material resource gain, and the activities you enjoy. Part of the system was an attempt to make the expansion require enough skill to have a decent length fight with someone, instead of just taking 5 seconds to kill a noob while in AQ40 gear.
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