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Blizzard: Arenas Were a Mistake

Posted: 14 Nov 2009, 00:00
by Henhouse
http://www.wow.com/2009/11/13/blizzard- ... -a-mistake

"John Funk of WarCry recently interviewed Blizzard's VP of Game Design, Rob Pardo, about WoW's five-year anniversary, and he shed some light on a number of topics, including their total subscriber numbers (twice to three times as much as its current 12 million), what audience their new MMO is meant for, and what he thinks WoW's greatest successes were. But some other very interesting information came up when the interviewer asked what he thought WoW's biggest mistakes were.

He begins by saying that he wishes that the servers had been more stable at launch, and that there had been more of them, but he says that in terms of design, Arenas were the single biggest mistake in WoW's history.

Says Pardo:
We didn't engineer the game and classes and balance around it, we just added it on, so it continues to be very difficult to balance. Is WoW a PvE cooperative game, or a competitive PvP game? There's constant pressure on the class balance team, there's pressure on the game itself, and a lot of times players who don't PvP don't understand why their classes are changing. I don't think we ever foresaw how much tuning and tweaking we'd have to do to balance it in that direction.
Pardo indicates that most of the changes to the game since launch have been a success -- the shrinking of raid sizes, the addition of Heroic dungeons, etc -- but that Arena has been a huge headache for Blizzard and players alike. He goes on to say that if he had the choice, he'd either go back to WoW's beginnings and change the fundamentals of class balance, or, barring that, would nix the decision to add Arenas during the development of the Burning Crusade expansion.

A pretty candid statement about a pretty controversial topic. It's good to see that Blizzard understands that the implementation of Arenas was a mistake for a game like WoW. Of course, Pardo also says that they can't just axe Arenas completely, at least not yet, so we may be stuck with them for a while. Sorry about your PvE burst damage, guys."

Re: Blizzard: Arenas Were a Mistake

Posted: 14 Nov 2009, 00:57
by Tykel
Arena wasn't a mistake, it's just "Pros" who lose in WotLK and QQ all day :P.

Re: Blizzard: Arenas Were a Mistake

Posted: 14 Nov 2009, 01:15
by Henhouse
For them, it is. They have to maintain a perfect balance between classes taking up much time from developers and programmers. Then when it's not perfect(and it never is) they are constantly working to change things while players flame and QQ about the game.

Whereas, before arena, the game didn't have to be 100% balanced, but each class had it's own uniqueness which made picking your class a real aspect of the game. PvErs now have to constantly get used to spell changes and new damage methods, etc, etc. Paladins have been changed so much that we've had to relearn what to use about 3 times over now.

So for Blizzard, and the inconvenience of PvErs, it truly is. I mean, yeah arena is fun -- but it's taken too seriously now and a big aspect of the game which Blizzard doesn't like. Arenas were originally meant to be a fun side aspect of the game, they never were actually intended when being developed for Burning Crusade to become a big end-game experience.

Re: Blizzard: Arenas Were a Mistake

Posted: 14 Nov 2009, 06:11
by Sabin
gdfgdfg

Re: Blizzard: Arenas Were a Mistake

Posted: 14 Nov 2009, 15:00
by Antique
arenas are fine

jk,beastcleave

Mod edit: Stop with the freaking breaks already. Warned you about them before. Btw, RMP wins beastcleave without an effort.

Re: Blizzard: Arenas Were a Mistake

Posted: 14 Nov 2009, 18:15
by Skriot
rofl.... ima be running a Beastcleave counter when my friend finally gears up... hes brutal glad on 4 chars anyways so... BM DK pala gna run

atm doing few 2s like 2300 mmr 74% win ratio but partner never logs.. just made team.. but yah gna start 3s in coming weeks

Re: Blizzard: Arenas Were a Mistake

Posted: 14 Nov 2009, 19:28
by Antique
Antique wrote:


Mod edit: Btw, RMP wins beastcleave without an effort.

heh,FYI beastcleave was made to COUNTER RMP.Yeah,BB might be able to win over beastcleave,but they are koreans,sry,noone else is able to

Re: Blizzard: Arenas Were a Mistake

Posted: 15 Nov 2009, 17:32
by Ganksta
Wizard Cleave beats almost all, Frost Mage / Destro Lock / Resto Shaman

Re: Blizzard: Arenas Were a Mistake

Posted: 15 Nov 2009, 18:28
by Endania
Ganksta wrote:Wizard Cleave beats almost all, Frost Mage / Destro Lock / Resto Shaman
IF you want max burst, you'd go for ele shaman instead of frost mage though. Ele shaman beats mage burst any day.