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Re: Redempt Sunwell Armor pieces! For actual reasons.

Posted: 08 Dec 2015, 18:19
by derivator
Hey there!

About the initial removal of the SWP armors: Sure I get it felt bad for some ppl to join BGs where some carries go with SWP, and I almost get problem that too many SWP items on a BG will make it bad. (However I don't aggree this.)
BUT, the total lack of them has just made the BGs much more boring. I am not suggesting to put back SC to make ppl farm it, I just think they should be available for a price that would make a BG filled them with at just the correct ratio.

Option A - Donation: (just like Thoridal and other things). This solution wouldn't require a high ammount of effort for the server/admis; surely wouldn't flood the BGs the server population with to many SWP armor pieces, and I guess it would generate some income aswell... wink*.

Option B - High end PVP reward: This solution would probably benefitial because it gave players new goals meaning they would spend more time on the BGs. Could be implemented as very high honor reward, or token based such as legenedary transmogs. I geuss this solution would require about medium amount of effort to implement.

Option C - High end PVE reward: In my oppinion this would be the best solution, but this would require the most effort from the server/admins. There are many ways to do this, in my oppinion the original (scripted) SWP raid would be the best, but downscaled to 10 or maybe 5 people. If the implementation of this would make it difficult and fair enough, not only would this not flood the server with SWP items, but I think it would also attract more players from other servers, where SWP is not even open, or just really hard to get there; maintaining the casual playstyle of this server. (Reducing the item output of a raid like this would be easy by setting the original raid ID duration and lowering the droprates). This solution would be the best paired with an attunement kind of raid where people can get lvl141/T6 gear, adding a key to the endgame content would be something to consider too. (I have lots of ideas how to do this correctly, but it should go into a new conversation)

Having some SWP armor pieces would give the server a new kind of edge, goals to players to keep returning, less boring battlegrounds, something that feels like an ingame economy with the tradable recipes and other stuff, an actual point of professions, maybe even new players as I have mentioned. It would certainly feel much more like a better all arounder server.
Without them I kind of feel like Smolderforge is heading into a more and more boring pvp arena server, which in my oppinion is not the right path for a TBC server with class balance Blizzard has managed to create for this patch...

(P.S. purely Arena + BG TBC servers all died already, and Smolderforge playersbase is shrinking too. Just look at AVs.)

Re: Redempt Sunwell Armor pieces! For actual reasons.

Posted: 08 Dec 2015, 18:38
by Pastorblastr
I would rather see this server die, than witness the return of SWP. Sure, you think PvP is 'boring', but only because you can't global someone. Damn.. say it ain't so.


Re: Redempt Sunwell Armor pieces! For actual reasons.

Posted: 08 Dec 2015, 18:38
by Terezi
I would rather see this server die, than witness the return of SWP. Sure, you think PvP is 'boring', but only because you can't global someone. Damn.. say it ain't so.


Re: Redempt Sunwell Armor pieces! For actual reasons.

Posted: 16 Dec 2015, 05:09
by Balls
with class balance Blizzard has managed to create for this patch...
Say what nigga? They overtuned shit in this patch in many ways and a lot of it is thanks to SWP itemlevel gear.