Resto sham comparison

[Shabang]

Hey guys I was wondering if any exp. shaman players or just tbc players in general could let me know how resto shams match up with other healing classes in arena? Obv I feel like they're not as affective as rdru but just wanted some insight and the best comps? (2v2)

Thanks!

[Horrorfever]

From what I've heard from the arena trashbags, sham comps are outdated, however it always depends on the players I guess.

RSham X Warrior is a good combo.

[Imperium]

I think RSHam/Warr is standard and reliable.

WF totem OP.

You could do RSHam/Ret/Warr in 3's, but no one plays 3's.

or Sham/hpal/warr in 3's. w/e, no one plays 3v3

[Hartun]

Rsham-BM is a decent combo also, tho it requires hideous amount of positioning ..

[Zapcraclepop]

Don't druids mesh better with hunters than a shaman would?

Also, requiring positioning in arena doesn't sound favorable at all. I can never stay where I want to be.
Warrior's a good one. A good ret is even better with the defensive dispel, freedom, protection, and panicbubble. Not to mention they benefit just as good, if not better than a warrior if they are seal twisting, with that wf totem.

The problem I found though, is everyone who does arena uses totem macros. Every pet, or rank 1 instant cast is set to nuke tremor, windfury and mana tide. Your chances of keeping a totem down long enough for your partner to benefit from it, is actually rather low.

Due to this, I would go Dpriest or Rdudu, or even Hpally over shaman if I wanted to do arenas as a healer. Trying to heal while pretty much never having any worthwhile totems up is frustrating, and ultimately futile. You will Oom faster than any other healer, even with the totems. Add in zero CC or lasting pressure, and you can see why people choose druids (cyclone, root) or priest (mind control, fear, mana burn, silence) over shamans.

**Note** I realize not every (or many) Dpriests opt for the Disc/silence spec, but I have seen it... so I'm listing it.

[Bucovsky]

Your chances of keeping a totem down long enough for your partner to benefit from it, is actually rather low

Totems are 'instant' now so your partner has windfury applied to his weapon whenever you use the totem. They may destroy your totem really quickly but he gets his windfury anyway.

[Zapcraclepop]

Your chances of keeping a totem down long enough for your partner to benefit from it, is actually rather low

Totems are 'instant' now so your partner has windfury applied to his weapon whenever you use the totem. They may destroy your totem really quickly but he gets his windfury anyway.

Oh, hmmmm. you're right. The effect is refreshed every 6 seconds, isn't it? that might be manageable then...

[Hartun]

The problem I found though, is everyone who does arena uses totem macros. Every pet, or rank 1 instant cast is set to nuke tremor, windfury and mana tide. Your chances of keeping a totem down long enough for your partner to benefit from it, is actually rather low.

You will be surprised on how wrong are you, los serves a good purpose and you can "exploit" putting lower ranked totems for the opposing team to get distracted with them. They usually go ape shit on the totems and wasting gcds, then when they realize how much time they wasted, one of them is ganked :D

[Zapcraclepop]

The problem I found though, is everyone who does arena uses totem macros. Every pet, or rank 1 instant cast is set to nuke tremor, windfury and mana tide. Your chances of keeping a totem down long enough for your partner to benefit from it, is actually rather low.

You will be surprised on how wrong are you, los serves a good purpose and you can "exploit" putting lower ranked totems for the opposing team to get distracted with them. They usually go ape shit on the totems and wasting gcds, then when they realize how much time they wasted, one of them is ganked :D

Perhaps I should capitalize upon that then, I only ever used rank 1 for magma though. So that's a thought. I do try to trick people who keep breaking tremor into attacking a stoneclaw, but if it's a macro ofc that isn't going to work. Though you'd be amazed how often I see people smack it. Speaking of stoneclaw, does that work as it should? ie: Hunter/lock pet is sent after you, drop stoneclaw, taunting the pet off you. I have not really seen this to be the case, so I thought to ask. Not going to bother making a bug report on it if it doesn't, it'll probably just get ignored like the caster hit issue that'll most likely, never be fixed.

[Hartun]

Speaking of stoneclaw, does that work as it should? ie: Hunter/lock pet is sent after you, drop stoneclaw, taunting the pet off you. I have not really seen this to be the case, so I thought to ask.

I have actually never used it vs hunters or in PvP environment, i can only confirm that it works wonders if you are alone farming and large grp of mobs go after you. Stoneclaw+Magma=Profit :D