Title rank requirements coming back down

[Henhouse]

After much thought and debating, I've decided I will be lowering the title rank requirements back down. Maybe adding the title system to Smolderforge a year ago wasn't a good idea. I didn't see HK farming becoming so much of a concern later down the road. My arguments to raise the amount are solid, but they do not address the problem in its entirety. If anything, they do promote the farming of more honorable kills.

Rank 14 should be exclusive. However, from the outrage I've seen by raising the amount needed by so much, I understand that you, as a community, do not necessarily care as much for the uniqueness of the title, but rather as a personal achievement reached.


With that said, I feel my efforts to raise the amount and restore the uniqueness may have been too impulsive. It's in my best interest to please our players and continue making the environment fun and enjoyable and constantly consider feedback from our players. As such, the HK requirements for ranked titles will be coming back down, but not to what they used to be. I decided a max of 20k sounds reasonable for rank 14, as opposed to 15k. Sure it's not too unique still, but it's only a small farm for some to go, as opposed to 35k more to go if you had just reached rank 14.

Expect to see these changes in the coming weeks.

[Firstaidkit]

High Warlord doesn't shows any form of dedication it's not even special anymore if anyone can get it this easily. The title is worth shit imo if you set it back to 20 000. This title was meant for the real dedicated players and NOT I repeat NOT for the casual players like Jiffy and Xaru that only play 1 bg per day. I think it's one of the worst decisions ever to bring it back down.

After bringing it back down there will be exactly 48 High Warlord and Grand Marshals on our server that's almost the whole top 50 list.

20 000 honorable kills is way to low, if you compare it with the HK list.

And yes I'm going to bitch about it until you change it back. Just like the others did after you raised it.
Also you do know that Xaru was only complaining about it because noone else did.

[Imperium]

High Warlord doesn't shows any form of dedication it's not even special anymore if anyone can get it this easily. The title is worth shit imo if you set it back to 20 000. This title was meant for the real dedicated players and NOT I repeat NOT for the casual players like Jiffy and Xaru that only play 1 bg per day. I think it's one of the worst decisions ever to bring it back down.

After bringing it back down there will be exactly 48 High Warlord and Grand Marshals on our server that's almost the whole top 50 list.

20 000 honorable kills is way to low, if you compare it with the HK list.

And yes I'm going to bitch about it until you change it back. Just like the others did after you raised it.
Also you do know that Xaru was only complaining about it because noone else did.

because Henhouse totally changed it back JUST BECAUSE OF XARU

not

shut the fuck up FAK, you have over 200k kills, what does 15k matter to you? huh? dedicated? anyone can sit in a fucking bg for 30min GY farming the opposite side
that does not mean you're dedicated, not in the least.
i dont know why you are even involved in this matter
you have so many hks you act like you should be the only one with the god damn title
just wait until henhouse removes the title system entirely, then how will you feel about your precious title then?
shut up and be quiet.

[Mynce]

imo make everything normal again up to Warlord and make HWL 30-40k or something.

[Firstaidkit]

High Warlord doesn't shows any form of dedication it's not even special anymore if anyone can get it this easily. The title is worth shit imo if you set it back to 20 000. This title was meant for the real dedicated players and NOT I repeat NOT for the casual players like Jiffy and Xaru that only play 1 bg per day. I think it's one of the worst decisions ever to bring it back down.

After bringing it back down there will be exactly 48 High Warlord and Grand Marshals on our server that's almost the whole top 50 list.

20 000 honorable kills is way to low, if you compare it with the HK list.

And yes I'm going to bitch about it until you change it back. Just like the others did after you raised it.
Also you do know that Xaru was only complaining about it because noone else did.

because Henhouse totally changed it back JUST BECAUSE OF XARU

not

shut the fuck up FAK, you have over 200k kills, what does 15k matter to you? huh? dedicated? anyone can sit in a fucking bg for 30min GY farming the opposite side
that does not mean you're dedicated, not in the least.
i dont know why you are even involved in this matter
you have so many hks you act like you should be the only one with the god damn title
just wait until henhouse removes the title system entirely, then how will you feel about your precious title then?
shut up and be quiet.

Wow Imperium what did I ever do to you that made you so mad? I just stated some facts here why I was thinking that the decision of Henhouse is total unreasonable.

I didn't said ONLY Xaru complained about it I said the CASUAL PLAYERS were complaining about it. And I'm saying that they don't deserve a title that actually only people get that invested a lot more time then 15 000 honorable kills. I don't see why so many people complain about it: You guys really find it fair that the High Warlord cap is at 15 000 while they're people with 200 000 HK's seriously!? IT WAS ABOUT TIME IT GOT RAISED TO 50 000 honorable kills and all 48 High Warlords/Grand Marshals will get this eventually if they really want that title so much. So what's the plan then. Raise the cap after 50 people have over 50 000? What's so special about this title then? Nothing, rank 14 means completely nothing on here. This title is worth shit if you change it back to 15k or 20k and I don't think this is "fun" at all. It should only be for people that deserve it and grind Smolderforge Battlegrounds on a daily base IMO.
Also it's not that I care about the 15 000 or 200 000 I just care about the title and if I see 47 other players with it that's kinda ridiculous since in Vanilla this title was so unique and here it actually means you only played 1 month and got the title. IMO that's not the way to obtain the title. High Warlord / Grand Marshal was also only meant for 1 player only on the entire server so seeing 48 people here with it kinda makes the title useless.

Maybe it's fun for the people that have 15k - 20k, but it's NOT fun at all for people that have 10x that amount. I want something different something special I think Ezatt & I deserve that after spending so much hours on here (150+ days) something like a special mount or tabard at 100 000 kills. Don't want to sound greedy but really 150+ days. That's double the time that our administrator Henhouse played here (EXCUSE ME SIR) the least thing you can do is add a special reward: a mount, tabard, custom title or some other special reward for Ezatt and me because we are almost two "celebrities" on this server.

But all what people can say on this server is: Oh Ezatt and FAK ruining the server, killing the population, having flame wars and farming the GY BESIDES THAT we also help a lot of people out if there aren't any GM's online (at least I do) and BESIDES that we MOTIVATE players to even play here I think almost my entire guild would have left after a few days if it wasn't for me that invited them into my guild motivating them to play on our server so BESIDES all the GY FARMING AND POPULATION KILLING we actually do some good things too just people don't notice shit and always go for the negative and troll the shit out of it.

Note:I was only speaking for myself and not for Ezatt just used him in the Example since he got almost the same amount as me in HK's.

I never said it was hard to achieve this but it's kinda unfair for the people who did get as much kill as me for what are we even playing here I can't achieve anything anymore, I can't obtain anything anymore and 15 000 equals 200 000 anyways here + the same title. So what am I doing? Wasting time? Or just continue staying #1 on the HK's, piss more people off

i dont know why you are even involved in this matter

Uhmm... Imperium maybe because I do battlegrounds here EVERYDAY. Why are YOU even involved in here? You DON'T bg on TBC, your not even close to my amount of HK's and you aren't close to 15 000. So why do YOU get involved in here, do you even have 5000 kills? I don't think so. Oops..

[Imperium]

yo dawg let me lay this down for you straight aight man?

this
is
not
vanilla





k? if vanilla servers were half as populated as SF is, then people would have the titles. a lot of people.
back then there was no cross-server battlegrounds, so you had to sit 30minutes in a queue, and then have a 10minute game, rinse and repeat. that is why it was so """"""Special"""""" to have HWL or GM.
well this is tbc, with over 300 players for about four hours straight. you can play so many battlegrounds during that time. the title system should not even be here if people are getting so upset over it, and you pissed me off because you're like "OH HURRDUURR I HAS 200K BUT DO NOT LOWER THE COST OF TITLE PLIZZZ ONLY I SHOULD HAVE TITLE I INVEST MUCHO TIME INTO GAME"
something like that
the reason I am involved here is because I've been here since before you even heard of Smolderforge, when titles were donor only or reputation based. if it was up to me, i would remove the title system to quit all this bitching. nothing good seems to of come from it. you have the casual people saying its too high
you have the hardcore no lifes saying its too low, only a handful of people should have the title.
jesus christ it's just a title and now i'm throwing my 2cents in because the community is throwing a fit over it.

[Firstaidkit]

yo dawg let me lay this down for you straight aight man?

this
is
not
vanilla





k? if vanilla servers were half as populated as SF is, then people would have the titles. a lot of people.
back then there was no cross-server battlegrounds, so you had to sit 30minutes in a queue, and then have a 10minute game, rinse and repeat. that is why it was so """"""Special"""""" to have HWL or GM.
well this is tbc, with over 300 players for about four hours straight. you can play so many battlegrounds during that time. the title system should not even be here if people are getting so upset over it, and you pissed me off because you're like "OH HURRDUURR I HAS 200K BUT DO NOT LOWER THE COST OF TITLE PLIZZZ ONLY I SHOULD HAVE TITLE I INVEST MUCHO TIME INTO GAME"
something like that
the reason I am involved here is because I've been here since before you even heard of Smolderforge, when titles were donor only or reputation based. if it was up to me, i would remove the title system to quit all this bitching. nothing good seems to of come from it. you have the casual people saying its too high
you have the hardcore no lifes saying its too low, only a handful of people should have the title.
jesus christ it's just a title and now i'm throwing my 2cents in because the community is throwing a fit over it.

Yo dawg,
I
did
not
play
Vanilla.

I was just comparing it with Vanilla since there was only 1 Grand Marshal and 1 High Warlord showing how UNIQUE it really was there. And how stupid the title is here since it has no value to me if it gets set back at 20k.

Love the fact that you claim to know so much about the server while you DONT EVEN KNOW HOW THE BG's go here.

1. YES, there are 300 - 400 people online. Are the factions equal maybe at this time it's quite balanced. But srsly in the past this server was not balanced at all and you had to be lucky to even get an AV pop. In the evening I still have 30 mins queu sometimes since there are way too much Horde or way too much Alliance so this is kinda bullshit you don't get fast in bg's on Smolderforge on Horde Side (Depends on which time also of course ;)).
2. All of them play bg? NO FUCKING WAY, in TBC there was also MORE to do. Since it was an EXPANSION and they add new shit in it. ARENAS :OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO maybe 50% of the people that are online do this shit (some of them never even entered a bg) also more PvE Raids, Outlands, new items and lots of other extra content but I think you got the point here.
3. BTW I actually play here for two years+ (on a daily base with 150+ days of playing time I think that's more then you will ever play here) and I was here when titles were actually for donations only.
4. I can't quite understand why people complain about this change of course it's frustrating for the people that just have the title but seriously it had to change sometime and you always get people complaining when you make such major changes. Just deal with it like when Henhouse made the SWP gear for donation a LOT more people complained about that if I remember it right. If you make such big changes to your server of course there will always be players that disagree. I disagree with lowering it.

[Cube]

lol

[Gandraman]

Who gives a fuck if titles go down or stay like this , 90% of players here play for a day or a week , never take s3 and leave . And why do you keep comparing it with retail , it is a bootleg server , one of a kind . Put High Warlord title at 15 k , and make up some new titles to make it interesting , and make it flashy : Protector of the Relm or Faction King or Legendary Hero or something. Ppl like things like that . Ppl in general like titles and achievements , and will play to get them ... It is good publicity .

[Mynce]

Who gives a fuck if titles go down or stay like this , 90% of players here play for a day or a week , never take s3 and leave . And why do you keep comparing it with retail , it is a bootleg server , one of a kind . Put High Warlord title at 15 k , and make up some new titles to make it interesting , and make it flashy : Protector of the Relm or Faction King or Legendary Hero or something. Ppl like things like that . Ppl in general like titles and achievements , and will play to get them ... It is good publicity .

Will never happen.
Anyways! back on topic.
i agree with fak if warlord is such an issue for people
then make just that rank a little bit hard to achieve then the rest.
it actually gives the players who got s3/s4 something to go for when they got nothing else to do.
other then that its nothing special.

Rank 14 should be exclusive. However, from the outrage I've seen by raising the amount needed by so much, I understand that you, as a community, do not necessarily care as much for the uniqueness of the title

this just goes to show that people just want to get there shit the easy way.
while players who actually play longer then a month here will have nothing left to achieve.
it took me 9 days to get 15k.
really, it shouldnt be so easy