Balance

[Hartun]

The horde-alliance balance is so spoiled that you cant even join a bg,and when you do you are vastly outnumbered,i think that its about time that this problem is taken very serious..

[Mynce]

its pretty easy to fix
remove the que notification that shows how many ppl are in que
it demotivates ppl when they especially when the opposite faction has 40 in que and your faction barely has 10

[Henhouse]

its pretty easy to fix
remove the que notification that shows how many ppl are in que
it demotivates ppl when they especially when the opposite faction has 40 in que and your faction barely has 10

Interesting idea, I'll try it. Disabled.

[Wacco]

Cool idea

[Gregoriano]

http://www.smolderforge.com/forums/view ... =11&t=7209 I gave my solution idea in that thread.

Henhouse, I don't understand how that system destroyed group queueing, unless it was badly programmed and buggy. Of course some of the group members might wait logner to get in(until other side gets manned up), but that is intended.

I think it is far better that both sides have same numbers of players at the same time, even if some people will whine about not beeing able to join with their group instantly.
Every match gets full manned eventually(not AV), unless it ends prematurely because one side was outnumbered.
If horde won't have these outnumbering free wins anymore, then they will have more incentive to make ally chars, because unfortunately many people just want to kill/win no matter how.

This system would really shine in AV, I remember too many games when it was 40vs~20.

[Otaku]

I would like to request the implementation of the queueing numbers again, since for people like me, that can only play when most people are sleeping, it's impossible to get a bg running, last night 2 bg's in 2hours...
Usually we change faction depending on the numbers so we can keep them runnning, now it's impossible to do so.

[Parakatiani]

I would like to request the implementation of the queueing numbers again, since for people like me, that can only play when most people are sleeping, it's impossible to get a bg running, last night 2 bg's in 2hours...
Usually we change faction depending on the numbers so we can keep them runnning, now it's impossible to do so.

+1 to Otaku
Agree with you mate

[obilicrs]

As 1st, Hi everyone. Now to turn to actual theme.

@Hartun, I dont see a possible way to balance number of horde and alliance players in game, becouse if more people want to play horde or alliance, there is no way to force them to play other faction. Its purely their own decision. It is true that faction player numbers are pretty much unbalanced, and it makes queues pops slower as well as ruins game play in certain bgs when you get seriously outnumbered. But as I stated above, you can't force anyone to play what he don't want.

@Mynce - Removing queue notifications won't fix faction player numbers, it can just make it worse. Why? Lets see, you have no idea how many people are in queue, so becouse of that you don't know when to expect bg to pop, or will it pop at all. Notifications were obviously disabled last night (this morning, around 5am or so) and I was sitting there in ally side for like 1 hour waiting for queue to pop without knowing will it pop at all, and finally I was forced to log off, becouse its pointless to wait something totally unpredictable. Yea I said I was in ally side, even tho I'm hardcore horde player, but just trying to get some bgs roll on, when I'm online. HOWEVER, I do agree with your statement about demotivating players when they notice 40 players in queue from opposite faction and like 5 of their own faction. I had chance to feel it on my own skin, so yea its pretty bad, but disabling notifications isnt solution. sorry

@Gregoriano - Just no, if person want to group queue with friends as guild premade or just for fun, becouse we all know playing with friends is always more fun I don't see reason why to not allowe them that. Maybe increase minimun players required to start bg would actually balance it out, but I'm afraid it might spoil pops and make them even slower.

@Otaku - I agree with that, queue notifications should be back, so that certain amount of people that play late at night dont waste hours staring at their monitors and after all, get nothing. Its pretty stupid.

In the end, if I could add 1 own idea (i dont know if anyone suggested this before, so I'll selfishly claim it as my own) that could mainly improve gaming at night hours/early morning hours, which is to make warsongs rotate whole night from like 1 or 2am until 6-7am when more players come online. Why? Simple, warsong needs least number of players to start and as well least numbers of players to keep game alive, so it doesnt close after 2 minutes. That would be all from me I guess.

Best regards:
Ash

[Mynce]

to put it simple : Allot of people here are faggots
when they see the other faction dominate they just relog to that faction
farm some kills/honor for whatever they desire and probably rage at you in whispers aswell.

for ever 1 person here suggesting to puttin the que notifcation back up.
you got atleast 10 faggots who wont even look on the forums.

and otaku ssssshhhh.....

[Gregoriano]

@obilicrs
I just want to make this clear, everyone from the group would get in to the same bg eventualy. From my experience here during the day, almost always if a match starts with 15vs7, it gets 15vs15 after a few minutes, the problem is, during that time they get so much ahead, they just can't loose anymore, especially since often they get blocked 5 or 4 cappped at graveyard with no way out.
I really don't see why this would be such a problem for groups.
For me 15vs7 is not fun, being on either side, with friends or not, or is it just me?

There is some other hidden bonus of that system, becuse with it you can remove minimum amount of players requirement altogether. And at night you could see for examples 3v3 bgs, such a bg is still better than no bg at all. I remember back in the days on other serveers, they were actually fun.


i agree with otaku here. It gave a tip, when switch factions and get near instant pop. Although most people here probably did not do that.