non donor S4 problem

[Gregoriano]

Since majority of player base are non donors and most of them will never donate for various reasons, it feels absurd that there is no realistically achievable way of obtaing S4. Yes, you can get it through arena, but the rating requirement is so high noone really attemps to even try playing serious and reach 1850 rating (for first possible item) and 2000 for last one, since almost noone plays it, noone even tries and circle ends.

And yes, I tried to get that rating, you might get lucky and farm some noobs to ~1650 but then you might get unlucky and get farmed down by pros in S4 (that play mostly for glad tittle?) back to 1500 or below, and thats the problem, average players in s3 dont play it, because they know they wont reach 1850.

I think that for non-donors it gets really frustrating after awhile and they quit server because they are stuck with S3.

I personally dont think getting S4 should be too easy, but should be achievable for medium skilled players while taking alot of time, like 3-6 weeks or something (unlike s3 that took me like 2-3 days to get). This will still give players a reason to donate if they dont want to grind so long.

This rating requirement is too high because of how the blizzlike system rating works (and I assume it's working like blizzlike 2.4.3 used to unless I dont know something) , it implies that the less players play arena the harder it is to get the same rating. This also means that there is no good universal rating requirement in this system, it should be adjusted when more or less players play arena from time to time.

If we want to make players get S4 through arena.
1. We must first make players want to play arena so there should be some low rating requirement items, for example guardian ring at 1550 rating. Aswell as make AP points come daily.
2. Since we dont want everyone suddenly walk in S4 increase the AP cost of items and/or reduce the amount of AP we get daily.
3. Considering the amount of people that currently play arena I suggest to make the last items require not more than 1800 rating.

Now if you would even consider doing something with it, I could make a brainstorming and think of a rating and arena point system that would be unafected by how many players play arena.

I play this server mostly to play bgs like most people(no shit? right :P), because of that I suggest adding a way of getting S4 through BG aswell for example:
1. Each S4/guardian part would cost very high amounts of marks,honor,badges or whatever and maybe even a prevoius s3 part aswell. Probably the easiest to implement.
2. For reaching High Warlord/Grand Marshal Title. Probably not the best idea since you fight with HK farming.
3. Make some weird quest for example: win 5 WSG in a row with 3-0 score, win AV with more than 600 supplies left, win AV without loosing any tower or graveyard?, win AB 2000-0. I could go on and on with this kinds of quests, its cool aswell because they promote playing to win rather than hk farming. However I know they might be hard to code.

Short version: Add a very time consuming way of obtaining S4 through bg and/or reduce the rating requirement and increase the arena point cost drasticly. I strongly believe it would increase player base in the long run!

[Mynce]

so you dont want shit to be easy achievable but you want a s4 ring to be available at 1550 rating ?
bitch please....

[Falseroll]

I know people who are playing here in s3 since a lot of time ago, and they still happy in s3, .

[Gregoriano]

so you dont want shit to be easy achievable but you want a s4 ring to be available at 1550 rating ?
bitch please....

You misunderstood me. Personally I would be ok if all items where at 1750-1800 range.
Suggestion with the 1550 rating ring was to make people actually enter arena. If we want people to play arena, I would go even further, that there should be one item every 50-100 rating starting from 1550 and with all the rest ending at 1800. Someone that knows he wont reach more than 1600 for example, wont even try to play arena, because he has no reason to play, and that's bad.
I also said getting S4 should be very long, so every item should cost 3000-5000 AP this alone makes it not that easy.
Everything I said about arena is good if we want people to get S4 through arena and play it, otherwise leave everything exacly how it is now.
I mention changes to arena because they are the easiest to be done, you just have to change few entries in database and has nothing to do with code, right?

However, I strongly recomend that there should be a way of getting S4 through BG that takes 3-6 weeks(It might even be longer) to complete, since it is mainly a BG server. The main reason this idea is good is that people will still play on this server long after they get s3.

I know people who are playing here in s3 since a lot of time ago, and they still happy in s3..

Let's think in an opposite way. How many more people in s3 you could possibly know, if they didn't quit because there was nothing more to do/get and they got bored, or they got frustrated, because there was no way of getting S4 without donating. That's the main reason why I think that implementing one of this suggestions either for bg, arena or both will increase the server population in the long run.

I'm sorry for long posts and most likely I said something more than once, but I want to perfectly clear and I don't want to be misunderstood.

[Kaloyo]

S3 is still great to get...

[Pallyofhell]

ok one dont complain about not being able to get gear cause the fact hen changed it so s3 is obtainable through getting honor. not like it was awhile ago when it was for rating and s4 was for donors only. you know the days when it was actually justified to complain about donors in arena

[Imperium]

after not reading you post, i have decided that it was not worth my time sinceother people replied. but im still going to reply because its 1am nd I am not having nything better to do.

on topiuc though s3 ios the best, below s4. there is not even a difference in stats tbh, and the urrent staff ifference does not majorly affect gmeplay, so even if ypi're in s3 vs. s4, and it is a mirror, you cn still win due to skill and not gear.

[Mayore]

the diffrence between donors and non donors is swp gear. it makes HUGE diffrence

[Cube]

the diffrence between donors and non donors is swp gear. it makes HUGE diffrence

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[Amgseret]

Yea, though s4 should really be avaible for some crazy cost like 10x of the s3. Shouldnt hurt donations much but gives real poorfags or guys without any chance to use paypal, the chance to have it...given the motivation to farm.