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Make GY farming bannable

Posted: 24 Apr 2012, 15:22
by Mynce
k as the title says.
peopel dont wanna give up premades thats fine.
but maybe make GY farming bannable?
it would force premades atleast to end there bg's instead of wasting time
because GY farming itself is a waste of time.
i hope you see where im coming from so i dont have to waste my F'ing time explaining it to you.
anyways if anyone got a different solution please state here how and why.
"cuz this shizzle seriously needz to end ey"


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Re: Make GY farming bannable

Posted: 24 Apr 2012, 18:02
by Pallyofhell
i get problem with it cause it does get old and boring after so long and becomes pointless but i dont think they will ever make it bannable

Re: Make GY farming bannable

Posted: 24 Apr 2012, 18:07
by Cube
Mynce wrote:because GY farming itself is a waste of time.
HK's. Serious business.

Re: Make GY farming bannable

Posted: 24 Apr 2012, 18:17
by Overdozze
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Seriously now...you're asking for way too much.It's a private with probably imbalanced ratio/skill ratio/guild power.Therefore,it is impossible not to stumble across GY camping.Banning won't help at all.In a BG you are free to do whatever...strive to win,farm middle hks,farm graveyards....etc.
Take for example donators...I doubt they care about wins/losses as much as they care for pwning people as they have already BiS gear.

Re: Make GY farming bannable

Posted: 24 Apr 2012, 18:22
by Cube
Overdozze wrote:MAINSTREAM IS TOO MAINSTREAM
Making sense.

Re: Make GY farming bannable

Posted: 24 Apr 2012, 18:29
by Mynce
Overdozze wrote: Seriously now...you're asking for way too much.It's a private with probably imbalanced ratio/skill ratio/guild power.Therefore,it is impossible not to stumble across GY camping.Banning won't help at all.In a BG you are free to do whatever...strive to win,farm middle hks,farm graveyards....etc.
Take for example donators...I doubt they care about wins/losses as much as they care for pwning people as they have already BiS gear.
maybe it is asking too much but if its killing the population
which in a way definitly is , something should be done against it.
why does it have to be farming , is it really that hard to just cap and avoid the endless drama were having here.
since this whole "HK race" has started on SF
the whole server has been going nothing but downhill imo.
the more farming the more rage ppl get the more rage the more drama.
and when you look at the past it has shown us more then enough proof that this is happening.
but if thats the way people want to go then by all means go ahead.
im just trying to make the best out of it for as long as it lasts.

lets look at wrath do all of you want the same to happen there?
to have people nerdrage in the LFG channel complaining abouthow the other owned him by being outnumbered.
or how people like to complain at donators just because they play with other donators because every other player hates them ?
i mean really some ppl refuse to donate because they get so much hate on them for simply wearing better gear.
so what is a donator gonna do ? join a guild with more donators.
theyll go pvp and the opposite faction will rage, rage turns into drama.
and there you have it
its a never ending cycle.
which has to be broken

and this is 1 of many examples


maybe we can set a timer on WSG ? since this bg seems to have the most problems
so what if like a GY farm at WSg is taking longer then lets say 20 min make it a bannable offence or let the bg auto end after a certain time period ?
there's got to be something that can be done.

Re: Make GY farming bannable

Posted: 24 Apr 2012, 18:45
by Cube
Mynce wrote:something should be done against it.
Winning the BG's usually does the trick. Not saying it's a working solution in all cases, but it's far from impossible. We've done it quite a lot of times with groups of 2-3 against full 10 man premades.

Enforcing people to do something that they don't like isn't the way to solve it. Some people like to go after objectives, some people like to roam around looking for fun fights, others like dicking on a gy, stacking HK's.

Lower the duration on Deserter or something. Maybe remove the debuff after the BG has been going on for XX minutes. Far from a perfect solution, but it's better than banning people for playing a BG in a particular way.

Best solution would be to put a timer on WSG, if that's possible. GY farming in EotS and AB ends fairly quick, since there's already a "timer" on them because of their mechanics. WSG is the only real problem, since people are dumb enough to just zerg down into the team that's camping.

The only reason GY farming is as big of a problem as it seems around here, is mainly because people are dumb, not because people are grinding HK's.

Re: Make GY farming bannable

Posted: 24 Apr 2012, 18:49
by Cube
Post edit.
Mynce wrote:lets look at wrath do all of you want the same to happen there?
to have people nerdrage in the LFG channel complaining abouthow the other owned him by being outnumbered.
or how people like to complain at donators just because they play with other donators because every other player hates them ?
i mean really some ppl refuse to donate because they get so much hate on them for simply wearing better gear.
so what is a donator gonna do ? join a guild with more donators.
theyll go pvp and the opposite faction will rage, rage turns into drama.
and there you have it
its a never ending cycle.
which has to be broken
This has nothing to do with GY camping.
Mynce wrote:maybe we can set a timer on WSG ? since this bg seems to have the most problems
so what if like a GY farm at WSg is taking longer then lets say 20 min make it a bannable offence or let the bg auto end after a certain time period ?
there's got to be something that can be done.
You were quicker with your edit than me posting.

Re: Make GY farming bannable

Posted: 24 Apr 2012, 18:54
by Mynce
Cube wrote:Post edit.
Mynce wrote:lets look at wrath do all of you want the same to happen there?
to have people nerdrage in the LFG channel complaining abouthow the other owned him by being outnumbered.
or how people like to complain at donators just because they play with other donators because every other player hates them ?
i mean really some ppl refuse to donate because they get so much hate on them for simply wearing better gear.
so what is a donator gonna do ? join a guild with more donators.
theyll go pvp and the opposite faction will rage, rage turns into drama.
and there you have it
its a never ending cycle.
which has to be broken
This has nothing to do with GY camping.
it actually does, know the term "Action and Reaction ?"

Cube wrote:
Mynce wrote:maybe we can set a timer on WSG ? since this bg seems to have the most problems
so what if like a GY farm at WSg is taking longer then lets say 20 min make it a bannable offence or let the bg auto end after a certain time period ?
there's got to be something that can be done.
You were quicker with your edit than me posting.
idd i was ^^ but still think something like this should be possible

Re: Make GY farming bannable

Posted: 24 Apr 2012, 19:38
by Cube
Mynce wrote:it actually does
No it doesn't. It has an indirect effect, and that's stretching it. But you can't "solve" anything with that reasoning, because then you might as well just remove and ban everything. In other words, it's stupid.

Players will always nerdrage.

Some players will always have better gear than others.

Players will outnumber other players in quite a lot of situations, especially when it comes to BG's.

Donation "rewards" will never go away.

Some people will care about irrelevant shit, like what other people think about their virtual clothes.

Drama will always exist, GY farming or not.

People will always find some way to be fucking dumb.