Pls remove Free Action Potion

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Cube wrote:
Hardlight wrote:in game poll request?
With bias it'll get voted down. Just because there is a poll system doesn't mean that the community should make all decisions, especially not decisions like this.

It's like making a poll for all non-donors, asking if all donation gear should be available for everyone, for free. Bias will say yes, that doesn't mean it's better for the server.
Also: Just fucking remove it already.
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Add Warglaives and re-add that immortal potion if you're going to keep it in game.

imo.
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Imperium wrote:Add Warglaives and re-add that immortal potion if you're going to keep it in game.

imo.
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Exsurgo wrote:
Firstaidkit wrote:. It's nothing custom and if you disable or remove it for like 4 or 5 people that are disliking it, that would be kinda unfair imo.
Logic like this really does make my head hurt. Employing it as such would suggest that there are 4 or 5 people who dislike it and 4 or 5 people that like it. Active forum posters != server community opinion.
I have seen way more people in bg using it then people complaining about it here. Do a poll and you will see the results.
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Firstaidkit wrote:
Exsurgo wrote:
Firstaidkit wrote:. It's nothing custom and if you disable or remove it for like 4 or 5 people that are disliking it, that would be kinda unfair imo.
Logic like this really does make my head hurt. Employing it as such would suggest that there are 4 or 5 people who dislike it and 4 or 5 people that like it. Active forum posters != server community opinion.
I have seen way more people in bg using it then people complaining about it here. Do a poll and you will see the results.
That's because it benefits way more classes/specs than it hampers. Of course people will use it, it gives you a MASSIVE advantage over certain classes. If you gave engineers a grenade that could one-shot healers, they would use it. It doesn't mean it would be good.

As said, this is a decision that shouldn't be made by the community, since the community is obviously biased, because it benefits more people than it puts in a disadvantage. Changing/removing the potion is for the administration to decide, or it should be.

Edit: And the fact that you've seen more people using it in-game than you've seen complaining about it here on the forums is pretty damn obvious. The majority of the community doesn't even visit the forums, they're found...

You guessed it!

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Re: Pls remove Free Action Potion

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Cube wrote: As said, this is a decision that shouldn't be made by the community, since the community is obviously biased, because it benefits more people than it puts in a disadvantage. Changing/removing the potion is for the administration to decide, or it should be.
I'm pretty sure this disscusion was opened more than once and I think that IF Henhouse actually wanted to disable the FAPs then I think he would have done it by now (just like he disabled Flask of Petrification). Unless it's on the list of less priority stuff but I doubt that.
Cube wrote:Edit: And the fact that you've seen more people using it in-game than you've seen complaining about it here on the forums is pretty damn obvious. The majority of the community doesn't even visit the forums, they're found...

You guessed it!

In-game!
9/10 out of the people that reply here don't even use these FAPs because they only play arena or aren't even active on the server anymore so yea I rather see a more biased result then the results of someone that doesn't even plays bg's and therefor doesnt' even uses the flasks. Unless you use it in duels but maybe that could be disabled at least?

It's not like I'm spamming those flasks myself (they share cd with mana pots and I use those way more often). I'm just defending this because it's something created by Blizzard and it was included in this patch.
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Why arent you defending the other flask and glaives for rogues then?
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Amgseret wrote:Why arent you defending the other flask and glaives for rogues then?
I'm not FAK, but I did support glaives for Rogues even though I'm not a Rogue. The reason why they weren't added according to Henhouse was something along the lines of that proc being bugged or that they'd be too OP, but I don't believe that one bit. Also, if it was OP you could always lower the proc rate of the glaives or even remove the proc altogether. Makes sense, no?
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Firstaidkit wrote:9/10 out of the people that reply here don't even use these FAPs because they only play arena or aren't even active on the server anymore so yea I rather see a more biased result then the results of someone that doesn't even plays bg's and therefor doesnt' even uses the flasks.
What does that have to do with anything? I'm not saying that they shouldn't put up a poll, and that they should only listen to the people complaining about it. What I'm saying is that they should take the arguments of both parties into consideration, and make a final decision.

A poll wouldn't hurt me personally. It would either make things better, or things would be left as they are now.

It is rather frustrating going up against this shitty pot every few bg's, where some cunt uses it on cd every time you go up against him. And as I've said before, quite a few times, the pot itself isn't the main problem (even though it's ridiculously op), it's the profession system and the availability of mats.
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Re: Pls remove Free Action Potion

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Xaru wrote:
Amgseret wrote:Why arent you defending the other flask and glaives for rogues then?
I'm not FAK, but I did support glaives for Rogues even though I'm not a Rogue. The reason why they weren't added according to Henhouse was something along the lines of that proc being bugged or that they'd be too OP, but I don't believe that one bit. Also, if it was OP you could always lower the proc rate of the glaives or even remove the proc altogether. Makes sense, no?
yes and even the dmg could be lowered to be same as s4 weapons its for the looks remove set proc lower dmg and change stats on it so its like a s4 weapon :)

if u have swp items availble for honor and badges why not Glaives(completely diff stats and such)
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