Remove Recipe vendors

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Cube
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Re: Remove Recipe vendors

Post by Cube »

Not naive at all.

@kjb, have to say that I agree with you, to some extent at least. But you're trying to tell consumable spamming, pve-decked people, apparently lost on their way to the raid, that this much stat and profession inflation in pvp is not good. It just won't work. People around here, outside of arenas, aren't interested in fights that last long enough for both parties to actually DO something with their class, and the abilities it offers. And if it happens to last that long, you need all those get-out-of-jail-free-cards, otherwise you might die. Yes, die. In a bg! The horror! Your stats won't look good after that. Just imagine if someone took a screenshot of it and posted it on the forums!

A kill around here isn't worth anything more than the 1 HK it offers. The fight itself holds no worth at all.
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Reflector
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Re: Remove Recipe vendors

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Cube wrote:Not naive at all.

@kjb, have to say that I agree with you, to some extent at least. But you're trying to tell consumable spamming, pve-decked people, apparently lost on their way to the raid, that this much stat and profession inflation in pvp is not good. It just won't work. People around here, outside of arenas, aren't interested in fights that last long enough for both parties to actually DO something with their class, and the abilities it offers. And if it happens to last that long, you need all those get-out-of-jail-free-cards, otherwise you might die. Yes, die. In a bg! The horror! Your stats won't look good after that. Just imagine if someone took a screenshot of it and posted it on the forums!

A kill around here isn't worth anything more than the 1 HK it offers. The fight itself holds no worth at all.
Support ya until the very end like always! We should take a beer night were we sit and cry out all those time we died in a wsg and didn't use our free cards =C
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Deems
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Re: Remove Recipe vendors

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Consumables are used by bad people to negate the mistakes they make.

A good player will find a way to avoid damage, whereas a bad player will just pop a consumable and ignore everything but tunneling damage.

I don't even see the fun in popping a consumable like free action potion, I seriously don't. You just pop a potion and you don't have to worry about any form of incapacitating effects for 30 secs? Does it not ruin the fun of PvP at all for you? No effort kills, spam 123 123 123 MAD FUN BRO.
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Re: Remove Recipe vendors

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Deems wrote:Consumables are used by bad people to negate the mistakes they make.

A good player will find a way to avoid damage, whereas a bad player will just pop a consumable and ignore everything but tunneling damage.

I don't even see the fun in popping a consumable like free action potion, I seriously don't. You just pop a potion and you don't have to worry about any form of incapacitating effects for 30 secs? Does it not ruin the fun of PvP at all for you? No effort kills, spam 123 123 123 MAD FUN BRO.
Agreed! Ffs cannot even duel poeple here without they are using consumable shit.
Fine if one is using nades in a very tight situation like in a bg were ya got multiple targets on you, but in a duel just no O_o
Amgseret
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Re: Remove Recipe vendors

Post by Amgseret »

Reflector wrote:
Deems wrote:Consumables are used by bad people to negate the mistakes they make.

A good player will find a way to avoid damage, whereas a bad player will just pop a consumable and ignore everything but tunneling damage.

I don't even see the fun in popping a consumable like free action potion, I seriously don't. You just pop a potion and you don't have to worry about any form of incapacitating effects for 30 secs? Does it not ruin the fun of PvP at all for you? No effort kills, spam 123 123 123 MAD FUN BRO.
Agreed! Ffs cannot even duel poeple here without they are using consumable shit.
Fine if one is using nades in a very tight situation like in a bg were ya got multiple targets on you, but in a duel just no O_o
Y u no like FAP in duel =(
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Reflector
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Re: Remove Recipe vendors

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Amgseret wrote:
Reflector wrote:
Deems wrote:Consumables are used by bad people to negate the mistakes they make.

A good player will find a way to avoid damage, whereas a bad player will just pop a consumable and ignore everything but tunneling damage.

I don't even see the fun in popping a consumable like free action potion, I seriously don't. You just pop a potion and you don't have to worry about any form of incapacitating effects for 30 secs? Does it not ruin the fun of PvP at all for you? No effort kills, spam 123 123 123 MAD FUN BRO.
Agreed! Ffs cannot even duel poeple here without they are using consumable shit.
Fine if one is using nades in a very tight situation like in a bg were ya got multiple targets on you, but in a duel just no O_o
Y u no like FAP in duel =(
=C only like using snowballs duel
Zapcraclepop
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Re: Remove Recipe vendors

Post by Zapcraclepop »

Deems wrote:Consumables are used by bad people to negate the mistakes they make.

A good player will find a way to avoid damage, whereas a bad player will just pop a consumable and ignore everything but tunneling damage.
Because having 3+ rogues pop outta stealth to faceroll you, then spam whisper you, makes the recipient a baddie. Get over it. If you don't like consumables, go arena. Otherwise, stop whining.
I very rarely use Free Action, because, I agree it is rather lame. But when I see 50-75% rogue teams, I just plain stop giving a damn. But there's nothing wrong with living action, you can dispel it and it's duration is less than 10s. It's not like we have the potion bug still around, where people like me would hit one button to get full life, mana, Free action, every single protection potion, and swiftness potion. Those days, I could understand the QQ. Now, just use your brain.
Zapcraclepop wrote:You cannot dispel free action potion. You can, however, dispel living action potion. So, they used a free action potion. yep 30s of snare,root,stun immunity. Ok... have your team use another form of CC. Blind, Sap, Polymorph, fear, seduce, cyclone, sleep.
Good grief, you guys can be more dense than lead sometimes, it makes me wonder if you can dress yourselves. Learn how to chain CC, and Free action becomes less obnoxious. Rather than tunnel visioning the warrior with three healers freecasting.
Cube
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Re: Remove Recipe vendors

Post by Cube »

Zapcraclepop wrote:Good grief, you guys can be more dense than lead sometimes, it makes me wonder if you can dress yourselves. Learn how to chain CC, and Free action becomes less obnoxious. Rather than tunnel visioning the warrior with three healers freecasting.
The fact that two-three hits from a warrior can take you down to 50% around here makes everything you say retarded.
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Exsurgo
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Re: Remove Recipe vendors

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Living action is fine, free action is lame. I stand by that. And I think I may have found the issue with over-the-top warrior damage, but much testing is needed.

Also rogue bugs will get fixed. Also remember Zap that rogues scale just as-well with +dmg scaling consumables, if not better than healers. IMO the consumable wars significantly favour dps over healers.
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Zapcraclepop
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Re: Remove Recipe vendors

Post by Zapcraclepop »

I'm not disagreeing that free action is lame, Exsurgo, I'm merely stating it doesn't make them God mode. I plan for it, carrying magic dust, and hoping my team isn't just like Cube; 99% troll, 1% actual player.
Cube wrote:The fact that two-three hits from a warrior can take you down to 50% around here
Oh is that why you don't play? Can't beat a warrior, can you?
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