[TBC] Noob/PVE/PVP suggestions.

[Diagnosis]

lol? They done city raiding on retail too. Oh wait........... you come from VCN nvm you prolly don't know shit about this game and about retail =D.

Do something mature and don't try to start arguements. There's no need to post something like that just because you're childish.

[Imperium]

Also add High Warlord / Grand Marshal gear for Honor, Badges, Arena points, Rating whatsoever idc just make it obtainable. There is only Warlord and Field Marshal gear available in Hall of Legends / Champion's Hall now.

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imperium HWl without title

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hand of ragnaros too
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[Firstaidkit]

lol? They done city raiding on retail too. Oh wait........... you come from VCN nvm you prolly don't know shit about this game and about retail =D.

Do something mature and don't try to start arguements. There's no need to post something like that just because you're childish.

You are prolly new here, you have probably no idea how many times people answered me with these worthless, childish and irrelevant answers. I suggest you browse to some older forum threads and then you can see how much people attempted to troll my threads or post with irrelevant and immature bullshit. Just so that my thread gets closed in the end.

Also this guy is just fucking clueless if he says that city raids should be removed.

[Oceans]

Add a new shared duel area with Hordes and Alliances.
People are raiding the duel areas and spawncamping you at the spirit healer.
It's pretty sad, I just wana duel, not get ganked by a raid of 40 people.

lol? They done city raiding on retail too. Oh wait........... you come from VCN nvm you prolly don't know shit about this game and about retail =D.

Great agrument there. Really a mature way of letting people know that you don't agree.
Let me give a counter agrument.

You see, it would seem that the Smolderforge staff doesn't like spawncamping, in fact they even banned WSG premades to stop the people from graveyard camping.

Now if you go to the teleporter, it says you can teleport to the duel area. Ofcourse this duel area is located just outside the main cities.
When a couple of rogues gank you right after a duel, it is rather annoying but hey, you can catch him the next time they try.
Now, when a guild makes a 20 man or an even bigger raid and starts to camp the 5 people that were dueling, that just doesn't feel like pvp to me.
The raid doesn't let them regroup, run to the teleporter or just get back to full health.
I have no problem with a raid to kill the Warchief or King, but these raids only focus on killing the people dueling and trying to respawn.

Wouldn't it just be simple to make a shared dueling area, on an open field where alliance and horde can't touch eachother. It's only a duel area, which means an area meant for dueling.
Add a couple of teleporters around the place so people wouldn't all group up around the same one.
And maybe even spawn alliance and horde at a diffrent place of the field, if you think it would get too crowded.

[Firstaidkit]

First of all you can't even get spawncamped if you are with 5 players unless you are all fucking terrible at this game or they camp you with 100 players (which I doubt). You can just respawn whenever the fuck you want at the Spirit Guard (since no ressurection sickness) for example Rezz > mount > run somewhere > HS

OH SO HARD MODE TO ESCAPE IT!

Also there were only two guys + their guilds on the server which the Smolderforge Staff didn't like to see them spawncamp since they already had the most HK's here and were just ruining the experience here of other players. They don't give a fuck about HK's just don't get them on an abusive way and since city raids are allowed you are allowed to camp the duel area. How annoying that can be for you. I don't care.

And it wouldn't be easier to make an neutral duel zone. You're not the only one that made this suggestion, it's just hard to script that kinda stuff and Henhouse doesn't have the time for it he can use his time better for other things with more priority. This is of none importance in my opinion better get some population on Wrath instead =).

[Amgseret]

Duel zones are fine as they are now, camping is a different issue. Something like an NPC guarding GY at org for example should do the trick. (+ near portal for extra lulz)

I had a fun situation last time in org. I saw a sexy rogue named Seret not attacking anybody vs 6-7 allys that had to gangbang him. He played the game with them for couple tries and none of the allys looked like they would stop from farming an jumping guy that didnt attack anybody. Maybe he should just mount up ? Yes, that must be it. Just too bad that the evil campers spammed aoe all over the place, some were mounted themselves and their numbers were enough to control the whole area around the spirit healer. Well, the hero of our story was a sexy rogue, so it didnt matter for him but if somebody would roll almost every other class, in the same situation, they would be forced to relog, because few people enjoy camping 1 guy who got 50% hp.

Well, you dont care, since it doesnt affect you. Same here. But what about somebody camped ? I dont think anybody would enjoy the shit for long and after 20th forced relog, they may just change the server. Effectively lowering the population on one side, fucking up the balance that would mean, more camping and more leaving, till some point where there is nobody to camp, so the campers would leave. Now this sounds truly great. Lets all start camping !



tl;tr: Unavoidable GY camping s bad, mkay.

[Firstaidkit]

There is a thing called LFG and if you spam Alliance in Orgrimmar or Horde in Stormwind. I'm pretty sure people will help you out. At least people always help me out.

I can't help it if you don't have anyone that wants to help you it's easy to avoid an GY farm just get an brain oke? Inb4 Henry starts adding guards that attack you from 120382108312083021830218 yards while your not even near the GY (cough hyjal bugged aggro and LoS cough).

You guys always complain about Blizzlike shit now this shit is Blizzlike so keep it this way no need to add anything to duel area it's fine as it is City raids were being done on RETAIL just like premades. Deal with it or get back to retail where you get raided as well inside your own city.

[Amgseret]

On retail it worked because of the massive population. So there was always somebody everywhere and when GY camping was a problem like it WSG, it was later changed with timers. Besides you confuse city raids with plain GY camping.

Well, then oh brained Fak, tell us how to avoid 5 people, who got aoe and nothing better to do with their time than farm a single person. No cheap tricks like boots, stealth, invispots and no 5 healboting guildies.
Imagine youre a random starters guy :D
Kgo.

No spamming LFG is the wrong answer.

[Firstaidkit]

My hearthstone works just fine just like the command .st

And you never get solo camped since there are almost always people in the duel area dueling since city raids usually happen during peak times. So there are always people to group up with and else you can ask people in the LFG or ask your friends (if you have any).

[Amgseret]

Yes, I bet they all will wait for you using HS or .st
Optimistic Fak is optimistic.

At normal, big, city raids, yea, then you even have a chance to escape because they target somebody else but my example was about non peak times. Thats why I talk about around 5 people not 20. So, much fewer in duel arena too. If youre unlucky enough there are 2-3. 2 may manage it but the guy left, takes one for the team :/

Again, the LFG/e friends example doesnt work always, so its pretty bad. Besides, I talk about new guy Joe, not about me. Just because something doesnt affect me directly, doesnt mean its not a frustrating situation for a new player. I got no problems with every idiot having glaives either, does it mean its fine for the rest ? No. Same here, just because we two dont have a problem with it, doesnt mean its fine for the guys involved.

Whats so bad about a little save zone at relevant GYs again ?