Add in donation gems.

[ludvigpasse]

@Oldsalt as for the gem itself i would not mind seeimg it be 50% increase rather then double or even less then that. Maybe even just 25% more. This way the total stat gain would only be half or 1/4 of what you mentioned. I was mostly thinking of it as an idea for people to motivate them into progressing their characters more as in doing more pve+pvp to get fragments for these gems and to make people that do like the server an actual reason to donate more then the pocket change that is s4, sunwell weps etc. Without giving them an big boost that would make it unfair to other people but rather just a minor perk that 99 out of 100 times wont change the outcome of whatever their trying to do. My vision for this is for everyone evolved in the server like henhouse and devs to get more money from people that appreciate their work and would not mind to donate money for it to motivate them to develop the server further thus attracting more players. Like me for example i like this server and would like to donate more for it but there is 0 reasons for me to do so and it buggs me. while at the same time give people more reason for character progression doing more pve and pvp for fragments. Without giving them this big advantage that makes everyone else pissed and annoyed about having to fight these people in bgs. A very small total stat boost would be enough for me and i think alot of others to. To motivate them to donate to the server and keep progressing their characters and actually feel like they have a goal to work for. Without a goal to work for its very easy to loose motivation to play and maybe even quit entirely. A motivation thst is currently almost non existent and that i believe these gems will bring even if the statdifference is just as little as 25%.

[Henhouse]

All in all i think it would be good if henry was able to make some more money out of the server to have the motivation to support it

I am more motivated, and always have been, by people enjoying the server and playing it. When the population boost from Nost came in April, that's why I was so heavily involved again despite being around the time of my final exams in university! I was definitely more focused on SF when I had the time in life, and it made enough in donations to compensate for the insane amount of time I put into it. I've been doing this for 8.7 years, and it's hard not to get too bored after a while. However, like others mentioned above: I am not a fan of custom stat-modifying changes to SF. Even though SWP was legitimate items in the game, we even still thought it was too much of an impact on the community and removed it. I've also voiced over the years that adding Thori'dal was a massive mistake. While there are many players who would love to see SWP gear return (and in ways, I wish that too for the fun), people do enjoy a more healthy, balanced game, and I feel we've achieved that quite well.

What you mean with easier to get ingame? 1700 for full s4 except Shoulders and Weapons is just fine. Don't make it to easy there has to be something you have to fight for. 2050 as non donor is very doable.

The mall redesign isn't just the vendors, we're reconsidering all types of pricing, conversion, etc. We're definitely making S4 easier to obtain -- but with a high end-goal for items like the Shoulders and such. We want to reduce the gap players feel that prevents them from doing arena without donating, and making it easier to obtain some items by participating feels okay -- those who cannot commit/climb high enough to obtain ALL of season 4 through high rating can still donate for it, as I'm sure they will and am not worried that will affect donations very much. I'd much rather people not be mad about the gear gap, or state of arena, and stay and play, than try to make a few bucks off people who leave.

[ludvigpasse]

@henhouse i can totally respect and appreciate that but at the same time atleast for me personally i would love too see more reasons to donate but ofc its also important to not raise the difference between payibg players and non payers. But its a shame for me couse i would love to donate more money to the server if i had a reason but outside of the very cheap s4 and swp weapons and xmog its hard to find a reason to do so. Like some form of money sink for people that wish to support the server more would be nice. It doesnt have to be custom gems but what about custom food buffs similar to the choco boxes candies. That last 1 hour or untill death and cannot be used in arena. Like 50x for 5usd or smth that gives separate buffs for example 25spelldmg. 45bonus heal, 25 attack power etc? It is hard to argue such small buffs would actually give people unfair advantages in bgs while at the same time give a reason for continous donating for people that wish to support the server for a mostly symbolical reward. If you dont like this idea then how about simply introducing chocolate boxes as a donate option? So that people that wish to get them for free can still do it for 10bojs but allowing players to donate directly for them also. As a slightly better ratio then donating for bojs to buy them this way ofcourse.

[pastbound]

Why not add Sunwell jewelry? Just the neck/ring/cloak items. You could make it cost something or another, whether that be honor, badges, marks or arena points. But I think people would be interested in new items to toy around with without things getting too out of control like ele shams one shotting everything in full SWP gear. My point is, I understand what this dude is getting at, it allows players more range to explore, more dynamic to their stats to play with, albeit I agree that you shouldn't make custom items/gear, that's just silly. Overall I think his idea is terrible, but I do agree that we need something new in regards to gear, however minor that may be. I do think adding Sunwell jewelry would be beneficial and enjoyable to a lot of the player base. It allows us a slight boost in stats if we wish to sacrifice resil for it while not being totally out of control in terms of damage. Again, it adds something new for players to explore, while not being detrimental to the overall community.

[Sylferey]

Good players should just stop act like total trashes ( not all, but being honest 85%) and start bring something to this server. Like manage to etach ppl how to play classes / specc, how to success in a specific combos etc.
That's the kind of things that could make ppl enjoy being here, enjoy spend their money and find a reward by playing with a good gear in a good ambiance.

Concerning the fact that more rewards shoud be added, yes, it's true, but it should be " specific things", the kind that you could only get here, fun stuff, more Tmog, and maybe special events idk. But the reward shouldn't be something related to char's stats since it can fuck the whole game if it's not PERFECTLY made.


To me, the problem is not the way the server is made, but the way players act ^^