New Arena Gear Prices / Rating Requirments

[Blackmambaa]

I feel that they need to lower the rating at least 100 and completely remove the requiremnt of buying the gear in general because geting the rating is acomplish enough.

[ZatYo]

so um I never bothered to read the suggestions, I'm just gonna copy what I wrote in a similar topic in the general discussion.

Also this isnt WOTLK, gear isnt as important as u think.. I ended r1 and got vglad title with a nondonor priest and mglad as nondonor warrior with my partners playing s2 (forgot also r3 aka Gladiator with nondonor priest) And i've played lots of chars to shoulders.
So um, Im not just trying to brag here.My point is that if you only blame the gear you'll never improve.. cause beign high rated with starter gear is indeed possible.Just find a stable partner, play a viable comb, dont rage when u lose and never give up cause there's always something you could've done better.

shortly said: l2p and stop crying.. ur suggestion is full of bullshit.
Btw points flush every 2 days, what 4 weeks u talking about? 2500 points is 4 days for me :ppPpp.
So ur clueless.. end of discussion.Wonder what u did 6 years :>

[Shangles]

so um I never bothered to read the suggestions, I'm just gonna copy what I wrote in a similar topic in the general discussion.

Also this isnt WOTLK, gear isnt as important as u think.. I ended r1 and got vglad title with a nondonor priest and mglad as nondonor warrior with my partners playing s2 (forgot also r3 aka Gladiator with nondonor priest) And i've played lots of chars to shoulders.
So um, Im not just trying to brag here.My point is that if you only blame the gear you'll never improve.. cause beign high rated with starter gear is indeed possible.Just find a stable partner, play a viable comb, dont rage when u lose and never give up cause there's always something you could've done better.

shortly said: l2p and stop crying.. ur suggestion is full of bullshit.
Btw points flush every 2 days, what 4 weeks u talking about? 2500 points is 4 days for me :ppPpp.
So ur clueless.. end of discussion.Wonder what u did 6 years :>

Alright first of all.. if you read what i wrote it would explain a lot to you.
1. I am not complaining
2. It is a suggestion so if you do not like it fine just tell me what you think and thats it not to call me bad and shit which is literally stupid imo since i am a 6 season glad on retail
3. You say you done rank 1 and got vengeful glad (Rank 1) and what are you (Donor) for 1 and 2 if you are talking about the WOTLK server this is a BC post
4. I don't mind playing the full brutal players at all i actually enjoy smacking around some people who out gear me but the point here is to make it so some pieces that are lower in gear such as Vengeful and Guardians should have a honor prospective toward it but with a arena rating requirement push toward it
5. By looking at the top 100 teams how do you expect a server full of players and only 16 people made it to the 1950+ area just to get brutal on top of that how do you expect them to get at least 10 matches to get brutal and if what you say is true roll over is every 2 days then they would have to play 30 games a week and whats the chances of them going flawless in all 30 games cause if they lose 1 game they drop around 20-30 rating.

[ZatYo]

reading what ur saying makes me doubt u are 6 seasons glad
Also didnt rly understand this part
''3. You say you done rank 1 and got vengeful glad (Rank 1) and what are you (Donor) for 1 and 2 if you are talking about the WOTLK server this is a BC post''
but im talking about TBC ofc.
I do agree that s3 gear should be with honor, but changing brutal isnt needed.By the time u wasted here u would've been 1900+ if you was any good lol.You dont rly need to be flawless wtf ur talking about.

[Shangles]

There are only 3 -6 teams playing at a time during a good day and those teams could range from 1500-1800 so the rating differences are quite high and there is going to be that team that is going to make you lose 20 points if you lose and if you win you gain 4-8 meaning you have to be flawless with your wins to gain rating in the first place. If you look at win %'s all the teams above 80% -100% win loss ratio... what i am trying to get at we do not have the population to be able to push such high ratings as a regular team. And you said i am wasting my time how is this wasting time when i am trying to make more content for the server that is actually plausible for many of the other players so we have not only donors at top 100 but regular players as well.

[ZatYo]

So you are calling impossible something i've done around 10 times? Even if I lose 30 or so (wich rarely even happens cause Im not losing to 1500 material players) I can always farm it up again, I've also had flawless 1950 3-4 times.. geting better solves your problems.
Also at peek times there are 50 ppl in arena, if you only play in the morning yeh you cant do it.

[Shangles]

If you look at your rating and win loss you are 139 - 16 you have 0 room to talk about flawless how is that not a flawless win loss you expect everyone to play at that caliber and on top of that expect them to do it in merc gear haha you make me laugh dude. You rarely lose i believe it look at your dam arena win loss ratio. Right now it seems you are only looking out only for yourself for 1 and for 2 you are afraid of other people to have the same amount of gear which could lead to a threat to your spot in the rank 1 position. I still think they should change the rating requirements of some items a bit lower like for fuck sakes dude look at the top teams only 16 teams would beable to get the brutal gear which makes 0 sense out of the whole server. Maybe if you drop it and made it a reasonable price people would actually try and do more bgs and arenas instead of running ZA or just quiting due to lack of content.

Smolderforge (What is possible to get for a non donor character with average skill)
Farm badges for t6 or do mindless ZA
Farm honor for titles or 3 peices of vengeful
What else is there we can get... oh yah we have arenas
Do 15 arena games go 10 - 5 wait why am i only 1550 okay ima do a few more games 17 - 10 1550....
Just understand its pretty dumb how the arena system works 1600 fights a 1500 and if the 16 loses they lose at least 20 points and if won gain around 8-11.
Even if you made 1900 rating you would need around 18000~ arena points to purchase all of brutal including off pieces.

Other than this it looks pretty dull to some of the community maybe if we lowered the ratings people would actually play more arenas to at least try to push for the gear.

[ZatYo]

If you look at your rating and win loss you are 139 - 16 you have 0 room to talk about flawless how is that not a flawless win loss you expect everyone to play at that caliber and on top of that expect them to do it in merc gear haha you make me laugh dude. You rarely lose i believe it look at your dam arena win loss ratio. Right now it seems you are only looking out only for yourself for 1 and for 2 you are afraid of other people to have the same amount of gear which could lead to a threat to your spot in the rank 1 position. I still think they should change the rating requirements of some items a bit lower like for fuck sakes dude look at the top teams only 16 teams would beable to get the brutal gear which makes 0 sense out of the whole server. Maybe if you drop it and made it a reasonable price people would actually try and do more bgs and arenas instead of running ZA or just quiting due to lack of content.

Smolderforge (What is possible to get for a non donor character with average skill)
Farm badges for t6 or do mindless ZA
Farm honor for titles or 3 peices of vengeful
What else is there we can get... oh yah we have arenas
Do 10 arena games go 10 - 5 wait why am i only 1550 okay ima do a few more games 17 - 10 1550....
Just understand its pretty dumb how the arena system works 1600 fights a 1500 and if the 16 loses they lose at least 20 points and if won gain around 8-11.
Even if you made 1900 rating you would need around 18000~ arena points to purchase all of brutal including off pieces.

Other than this it looks pretty dull to some of the community maybe if we lowered the ratings people would actually play more arenas to at least try to push for the gear.

Oh I totally cba reading all this, i saw the first lines and the one who is idiot is you cause I AM FLAWLESS in the team that is currently r1.Ever checked my personal? 1970 or around it.. my stats are exactly 41-0 and you can check that in the armory.Rly wont read the rest of it cause theres no point in losing more time with you.

[Shangles]

Maybe if you read it would get a bit more off of suggestion so if you don't want to read it feel free to stop posting because you are adding nothing to contribute the post.

[Hardlight]

the debates picking off small things and going no where.

High S4 prices = less people get it.

less ppl get = more ppl want

more ppl want = more donations

more donations = server stays up.

Thus explains why prices are high.

Now S3

Too low = everyone gets it = it's just a grind
Too high = no one gets it, BUT it has a more sense of status
Inbetween = .....i dunno.

SPIKE S3 prices to 15 000, ( i got 3 pces of s3 in about a day sooo.....:P)

Gloves = honor + 1000 arena points OR 15000
Chest = 1550 rating + 1000 arena points OR 8000 honour
Legs = 1600 rating + 1000 arena points OR 6500 honour
Helm = 1650 rating + 1000 arena points OR 5000 honour
Shoulder = 1700 rating + 1000 arena points OR 3000 honour

Weapons = 1650 = 1000 arena rating. period.

AND

Gloves = 20 000 honour
Chest = 20 000 honour
Legs = 25 000 honour
Helm = 30 000 honour
Shoulder = 35 000 honour


So basically the higher the areana rating = easier to get gear = promoting players to play areana to get discounts YET not canceling out the option of a grind to players who are.. well not as good.

I dunno just a brain fart atm, i'm tired SOOOO yea